Here is a direct quote clarifying issues somewhat that I posted on another thread
Quote Ok I see there is a lot of too-ing and fro-ing about what works and what doesnt and why not with the 2009 mac mini's. here is the lowdown. for a start the mini dvi to composite video adaptors which did work on pre 2009 model mini's will NOT work on 2009+ models. Apple in their infinite wisdom have dropped the analog output which these adaptors used to pretend there was a monitor connected. The mini dvi connection is now DVI-D (Digital only) previous models had DVI-I which contained both analog and digital signals you can tell the difference between the full size DVI connectors by checking if it has 4 pins around the larger flat pin at 1 end. These are DVI-I. The DVI-D connectors are missing the 4 pins AND have a slightly smalller flat pin hence some monitors not connecting to the included mini DVI to DVI-D connector that comes with the new Minis. Ok I hope this clarifies things a bit ;) I had the same issue with the analog output, admittedly my mini is used for a HTPC but the problem is the same. I eventually had to buy 2 things. 1. a mini DVI to VGA adaptor - AU $19 2, usb powered VGA to composite video Convertor - AU $50 delivered on ebay. these 2 combined will do what the analog adaptor did by providing a pretend monitor output. the convertor has composite video out, s-video out (will be digital pass through) and vga passthrough will also be digital. here are 2 links i found from a simple google search http://www.newtechindustries.com/newtech/computer/vga_to_composite_svideo_converter.html http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26804 I hope this helps clarify some issues over adaptors etc. end quote On Dec 5, 9:05 am, David Denne <dvdde...@gmail.com> wrote: > Oh its alright we were all newbies at some point right? I'm going to > have to unfortunately say since I just talked to one of the hardware > engineers I keep in contact with and from what you guys are saying > here that it was probably of course unintentionally removed. > > On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <rharmon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Sorry for my mistakes here, I'm a mac newbie. What the other posters said > > is correct. regardless of adapter it does not work without the monitor > > plugged in. Once I shutdown the mac completely and powered back up it > > didn't work any longer with the monitor unplugged from the adapter. > > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Denne" <dvdde...@gmail.com> > > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:56 PM > > Subject: Re: -- Re: -- Re: mac mini > > > Oh now I see about saphari. sorry for the unrelated post then. > > Rick thank you for pointing out the obvious, sometimes I need that. > > My appoligies > > > On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <rharmon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi David, > > >> See my latest post. I was in error and you are correct. > > >> Rick > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "David McLean" <david.mcl...@cox.net> > >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:48 PM > >> Subject: -- Re: -- Re: mac mini > > >> Rick, How does it work using Safari? > >> On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:45 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > > >>> Funny I'm using one here and it's working just fine. > > >>> Rick > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "David McLean" <david.mcl...@cox.net> > >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:42 PM > >>> Subject: -- Re: mac mini > > >>> The new Mac Mini, with or without a mini dvi adapter, will NOT work > >>> unless > > >>> a > >>> monitor is connected. > >>> End of story. > >>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:25 PM, louie wrote: > > >>>> Just one more time so I have this correct. > >>>> A DVI to VGA adapter will allow the mini to work with out a monitor. > > >>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:16 PM, David Denne wrote: > > >>>>> Oh alright I see. well yes then you are correct there. I don't know if > >>>>> you read my profile or not but but I beta test VO so that is my hole > >>>>> reason for coming on here. I want to get any feedback possible > >>>>> whethere it be negative or postitive feedback. > > >>>>> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <rharmon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi David, > > >>>>>> Yes I realize this, I was just commenting on the post where the > >>>>>> person said > >>>>>> the newest mac minis didn't require a display to be plugged in to > >>>>>> the mini > >>>>>> for VO to work right. I have a brand new mac mini here and it does > >>>>>> not work > >>>>>> as the poster stated when no adapter is used. > > >>>>>> Rick > > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "David Denne" <dvdde...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:57 PM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: mac mini > > >>>>>> Hello rick. Keep one of the monitor adapters pluged in to your Mac > >>>>>> mini. It will cause your mac mini to think there is a monitor and it > >>>>>> should work as you want it to. If not I'll see what I can do to > >>>>>> figure > >>>>>> this out. > > >>>>>> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon <rharmon...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm a new mac mini owner and just purchased the november version > >>>>>>> of the > >>>>>>> mini. I unhooked my mini DVI to VGA adapter and tried to play a > >>>>>>> DVD and > >>>>>>> got > >>>>>>> a DVD initialization error and DVD Player busy notice. SO I'd say > >>>>>>> this > >>>>>>> advisor is wrong. > > >>>>>>> Rick > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: "louie" <louiem...@wavecable.com> > >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:27 PM > >>>>>>> Subject: mac mini > > >>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>> I just got off the phone with a mac adviser. I was told that the new > >>>>>>> Mac mini does not need any special adapter to work with out a > >>>>>>> monitor. > > >>>>>>> louie > >>>>>>> louiem...@wavecable.com > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups > >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups > >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>> For more options, 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