Well, there is VoiceVision, which is dead, no longer updated at all, but nope, 
not the vOICe. I’ve brought it up several times, but Peter either isn’t 
receptive to iOS and all, or doesn’t have the money, resources, or doesn’t see 
the need to develop for iOS and macOS.
Sent from my Mac.

Devin Prater
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> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:41 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> I thought the VOIC was available on IOS, it’s not?  I know Android obviously. 
>  Peter is on the eyes free list you aught to bring it up, but off list so you 
> don’t get flamed.:)
> 
> Once it’s digital and all data the options are far greater.  As Sabahattin 
> rightly points out they could have a bad implementation with to many 
> restrictions but the general idea is a good one and we’ll have to see how it 
> appears in it’s final form.  You get it though, having a data stream instead 
> of analog signaling would be very advantageous.  Just like the switch to 
> digital for broadcasting was beneficial.
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 7:20 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com 
>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh man, video too? I didn’t think of that. Now if only some one would port 
>> the vOICe: seeingwithsound.com <http://seeingwithsound.com/>, to iOS, then … 
>> Then the wheel of fate would really be turning!
>> Sent from my Mac.
>> 
>> Devin Prater
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Devin, that’s the spirit!
>>> 
>>> That’s what I’m saying, some are poopooing the whole idea with out even 
>>> seeing it.
>>> 
>>> I think it was Ricardo that was mentioning the inclusion of health censors 
>>> which could track your health stats while wearing the headphones.  Your 
>>> ideas with VR are also good. I had mentioned how much better noise 
>>> cancelation would be possible with a digital input.  What about a headset 
>>> that has both audio and video so think something like a google glasses plug 
>>> in.  I’ve been thinking about getting an Oculist Rift and using that to fly 
>>> a drone.  I finally have time again to work on that project and I’d like to 
>>> take stereo audio signals as well as head movements to steer the drone and 
>>> have audible feedback.  Lightning would make that link possible to a phone 
>>> instead of a laptop or desktop.
>>> 
>>> I like your style.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com 
>>>> <mailto:d.pra...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One thing that interests me is the digital part of Lightning adaptors. 
>>>> Imagine EarPods that can detect what you can and can’t hear as an 
>>>> individual, kind of like MyNoise’s calibration stuff, but through hardware 
>>>> and automatic. Or, it could do noise blocking, or turn down volume when 
>>>> someone talks, or, with Siri maybe, if some one says your name. Then, we 
>>>> get into virtual reality stuff, with games possibly knowing how your head 
>>>> is pointed, if you nod or shake your head, stuff like that. We don’t even 
>>>> know what Apple has dreamed up yet for Lightning headphones. Perhaps, 
>>>> after using them, we’ll feel like regular old headphones are dead and 
>>>> boring, because they can only deal with sound or other analog data.
>>>> Sent from my Mac.
>>>> 
>>>> Devin Prater
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:21 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> See adapters don’t scare me, like you I have piles of them in the work 
>>>>> bag so I’m ready for what ever situation.  Lots of fiber pigtails, ST 
>>>>> connectors, SC connectors, single and multi mode, ethernet cables, 
>>>>> thunderbolt to ethernet and thunderbolt to VGA, 8th inch to quarter inch 
>>>>> headphone adapters, and so forth.  Even USB to 9 pin serial for the 
>>>>> console ports on various devices.  The Mac needs a good serial terminal 
>>>>> program for that matter.  I use putty or the terminal software under 
>>>>> windows but didn’t find Zterm on the Mac accessible.  One more adapter 
>>>>> won’t break me but it might give me cool connection options.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And that's agood point,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got so many adaptors now that I wish there was a standard for all 
>>>>>> devices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lightening or USB C for notebooks and tablets / phones,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've got lightening adaptors for my iPad and iPhone that do 
>>>>>> hdmi,vga,dvi, sd cards, USB and other things,
>>>>>> If Only they worked in my mac book air!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now I also would want to see more than one port on the notebooks, like 
>>>>>> the new mac book 12 inch, a couple more USB C ports would make more 
>>>>>> sence.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not just the one they have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Terje Strømberg
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 8:13 PM
>>>>>> To: Mac Group <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>>> Cc: Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Taking The Headphone Jack Off Phones Is User-Hostile and 
>>>>>> Stupid, Have Some Dignity
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually, there will be adapters that have both lightning  and 3.5mm 
>>>>>> headphone connector on the same unit. Its a strange world. Need to adapt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 30. jun. 2016 kl. 09.44 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:listse...@me.com>>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> More confirmation here:
>>>>>>> http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/cirrus-logic-mfi-lightning-headphone-dev-kit/
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/29/cirrus-logic-mfi-lightning-headphone-dev-kit/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lightning.  Still not happy about it, but then I’m not buying an iPhone 
>>>>>>> 7, so it’s OK, for now.  Gotta love the Apple pundits continuing to be 
>>>>>>> completely, ahem, tone deaf on the issue.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scott, I was talking more in the way of degradation to today’s computer 
>>>>>>> speakers over the use of complex physical changers.  Yep, there are 
>>>>>>> crazy workarounds, but there’s still no direct path from digital to 
>>>>>>> your speaker system or even boombox; either you’ve got proprietary 
>>>>>>> interfaces to the network or sky-rise vertically integrated systems 
>>>>>>> that know about very specific services, but no general-purpose network 
>>>>>>> interconnect that’ll work no matter the digital input source.  What we 
>>>>>>> want is for today’s computers and smartphones to be able, either 
>>>>>>> wirelessly or with digital AV interfaces, to benefit from the big 
>>>>>>> speakers.  That can’t be too much to ask, can it?  I’ve been looking 
>>>>>>> into all the various solutions, especially Sonos, but I’m still feeling 
>>>>>>> pretty meh about it, really.  Sure I can build a component system and 
>>>>>>> cable it all together and use a remote to switch components, but why 
>>>>>>> bother when I have a working wired and wireless network and all my 
>>>>>>> stuff—everything I care about—is all digital now and will become 
>>>>>>> increasingly so as I rip it from analog?  I just despair that at this 
>>>>>>> golden time of opportunity, all the vendors are going their own 
>>>>>>> separate ways to screw the consumer with closed protocols and meshes 
>>>>>>> and cordless standards.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for SD card storage, the only thing I’ll say is that Apple would 
>>>>>>> rather you pay their prices than wipe your bottom with money, so they 
>>>>>>> don’t offer you the choice.  But realistically, the SD interface is 
>>>>>>> slow, and if it existed at all it would only be in an adaptor form 
>>>>>>> factor anyway; there is simply no use case for permanently accessible 
>>>>>>> storage that’s external.  Sure I’d love it, but I think Apple are 
>>>>>>> probably right here not to include the slot, all the same.  Even on 
>>>>>>> Android a lot of people use SD cards purely for data, and not for apps, 
>>>>>>> because the speed difference is noticeable.  What Apple needs to do is 
>>>>>>> expose SD cards using document providers, and make the file system more 
>>>>>>> useful by making it accessible through iOS and from outside from a 
>>>>>>> trusted computer or over the network.  That, I think, is far more 
>>>>>>> practical and useful, IMO, and would make the grudges about storage far 
>>>>>>> less legitimate.
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