Scott, I was content to stay out of this thread as I thought Cara handled it very nicely.
However, your reply to her, on-list, was so egregious and disrespectful that I am compelled to respond as follows: While you are a valued member of this community, you do not speak for it in any way, whatsoever. Like it or not, this is the house that Cara built and you, like all of us, are an invited guest. If you don’t' like the rules of the house, then as the moderator of this community, I invite you to leave it. Let me bottom line this for you, and anyone else, for that matter, should you decide to reply to my admonishment with anything even approaching what I consider to be hostility, vulgarity, or anything else that is not in keeping with the rated G format of this community, I will immediately revoke your posting privileges. I suggest that you think carefully before your next post as this is my final word. Mark -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:23 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mod note - Language -was- Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? No it’s not appreciated greatly. Not even in the least. I’m sorry but G-Rated is for the children If there are 5 year olds reading the list then fine but even in that case nothing said was offensive or out of line. Nothing was said you wouldn’t say in a board meeting, work place, barber shop, café or insert your public place here. Further more none of the controlled words for broadcasting were included. Bitch and ass for example don’t have to exist after the after hours time frame that other over the air broadcasts have to adhear to. This is just another example of moderators being hypersensitive flexing muscle to feel important and almost certainly over reacting to the writings of one person off list who finds the word bitch earth shattering. These are the same bone heads who complained about Janet Jackson’s nipple (a human feature) falling out of a dress or Tom Brady mouthing the F word on the side lines. These are the same 3 people who can’t manage their own television knobs, delete keys and who hide behind religion or some sort of manufactured condition to bully the rest of us in to some sort of conformance to a prudish world that I want no part of. If you don’t like it, don’t read it, but don’t force your prudish viewpoints on the rest of the world who finds your level of restriction just as abhorrent as you find the language. Stop it all ready! On 6/11/16, 7:56 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf of clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >Goodness, Cara. Bless your heart. I appreciate you stepping up and >saying something. I know I contributed to a small degree, but I assure >you I tried to be incredibly sparing, if at all. I do agree it was >getting a little outta hand, so thanks for this quick note; it's >appreciated greatly. Had you not said anything, I probably would a written >privately. >--- >Christopher Gilland >JAWS Certified, 2016. >Training Instructor. > >clgillan...@gmail.com >Phone: (704) 256-8010. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cara Quinn" <modelc...@gmail.com> >To: "'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries" ><macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 4:13 PM >Subject: Mod note - Language -was- Re: bar instead of function keys on >new Mac Book Pros? > > >Hi everyone, please, just a friendly reminder. This is a G-rated list >when it comes to language. > >thanks; have a great weekend! > >Cheers! > >Cara >On Jun 10, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > >Oh here we go, they haven’t released it yet and you’re all already >bitchng about it. > >How many people did I hear piss and moan years ago when touch screens >came out. Oh I must have a physical keyboard. Phones will be >inaccessible with out physical keyboards, I need to have a screen >reader to install in my phone to use with my physical keyboard. Then >bam, Apple releases the iphone and here we are all using touch screens. >Then people bitched about the loss of the old multi pin connector in >place of the lightning and it hasn’t even happened yet but people cry >about the loss of the headphone jack and now this touch bar. Stop it >already. Unless you’ve used one you can’t comment with any degree of >meaning on whether it’s any good or not. Let the product come out, let >people review it first or jump in like some of us do but try it before >you bash it. With the line of thinking on this list sometimes we’d all >still be using holes punched in paper and an abacus trying to get jobs >at Google. An the first person who says the abacus is better than a >scientific calculator or beads are our friends or what ever gets >smacked about the head and shoulders with a trout until they stop.:) > >I’m tired of it. IF you want to be luddites that’s fine and your >choice but come on, the same old tune is getting old. Ihave a PDP-11 >taking up space if anyone wants it to get off the progress band wagon. > > >On 6/10/16, 6:09 PM, "Daniel Miller" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >on behalf of miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If they replace the function keys with the touch sensitive bar,I >> along with probably most of this list will lose a lot of respect for >> them as a company. I understand that they're supposed to integrate >> touch ID into this bar, but there are several other places on the >> machine itself or touch ID could be integrated without having to lose >> physical function keys. I have a feeling the Tim Cook led Apple is >> valuing form over function, which for people with disabilities, isn't always >> the best idea. >> Lenovo attempted this no function key idea with one of their >> machines, and guess what? It absolutely bombed, even for people that >> did not have a disability. >> >> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus >> >>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Honestly, totally agreed. >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Miller" >>> <miller...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 5:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros? >>> >>> >>> I think the touch bar is stupid, enough said. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> Rumor has it that the soon forth coming Mac book pros will feature >>>> a touch bar instead of function keys on the keyboard. This raises >>>> an interesting question. Assuming that Voice Over is turned off on >>>> any one of the new Mac book Pros that a blind user goes up to, how >>>> is a blind person supposed to turn on Voice Over if there are no >>>> physical function keys but instead a touch bar? I think maybe I >>>> can guess. If a blind person needs to turn on Voice OVer, it >>>> should be possible by pressing >>>> VO+touch anyware on the bar and that should do it. Or else, triple >>>> VO+tap >>>> the bar to turn Voice OVer on. 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