Hi Sadam,
I am trying to learn pages myself, but can you tell me a little more about 
Itext express?  I am assuming that it is another word processor option.  
Currently, I am in grad school right now, and am looking for something that 
will allow me to do pretty advanced formatting for papers such as foot notes 
and citations and bibliographies, like I said I do know that pages will work 
for me, but was just curious to hear about this option.  Thanks so much,
Brian
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:32 PM, sadam ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Office on the Mac is accessible however no where as good as the Windows 
> version.
> 
> There always going to prioritize the   Windows client first.
> 
> For working with documents I use the excellent Pages or iText express.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 5/06/2016 9:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Ladies,
>> 
>> Tha'ts officece 2011 for the mac and office 2013 for the windows platform.
>> 
>>  No office 2011 and earlier versions of office on the mac were not 
>> accessible with voiceover,
>>  Office 2016 is meant to be accessible but I've not tried it myself,
>> 
>>  The issues were due I believe to how the mac versions of office were coded, 
>> MS hadn't taken accessibility in to account.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2016 4:05 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be 
>> accessible
>> 
>>  There was never any claim made for the accessibility of office 2013 on the 
>> Mac. Unless you misspoke and meant  2016, your complaint has no basis in 
>> reality, since the inaccessibility of all previous office versions on the 
>> Mac was well known and much complain about.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> I purchased MS Office 2013, a purchase I continue to regret.
>>> It's my guess that totally blind testers are scarce in Microsoft cosmology, 
>>> while partially sighted testers who meet the legal definition of blindness 
>>> and make directors and managers comfortable around blindness, work for what 
>>> looks modern, without letting the function paradigm trouble the waters 
>>> overly much.
>>> Universal accessibility for them becomes a floating, situational impediment 
>>> instead of a standard.
>>> Of course, such dodging and compromising significantly impacts consumer 
>>> productivity, giving blind users who pay full price for such programs as 
>>> Microsoft's offerings, three-fifths of the access.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 18:26, Jeffrey Shockley <jawswiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Glad it works for you. :)
>>>> Just FYI, if you go to the Help menu in any of the Office Apps and type 
>>>> “Accessibility” in the search box, you will get a page telling about all 
>>>> the Accessibility features in each Office app, and what works and what 
>>>> doesn’t currently work, if anything, with assistive technology, including 
>>>> VoiceOver, in this case.
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My bad as for some reason it took awhile for th first excel doc to open. 
>>>>> Strange as it was an image for five minutes then the doc appeared. 
>>>>> Definitely weird, but seems to be working now.
>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Curious as I thought I had read that Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was 
>>>>>> accessible? I am running the latest build of El Cap, and I got 
>>>>>> everything installed, and just tried opening a excel document and all 
>>>>>> VoiceOVer keeps reading is image image image. Nothing will get me out of 
>>>>>> it not return, VO space, tab. Any ideas? Thanks,
>>>>>> 
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