Hi, If we could just figure out what process is grabbing VO focus, it may be easier to get Apple to deal with it. Whenever these sorts of loss of focus things happen, it's usually because another process hooked on to VO during app startup. For example, if you have Google Drive installed on your Mac, it will automatically sync in the background when logging in to your Mac. When Google Drive does its thing, focus is moved away from the Desktop and Finder,, thus one needs to use cmd-tab to get back to the Finder. Sighted folks never even notice this sort of behaviour as these are invisible layers and a simple click of the mouse on their desired object brings focus to it.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On May 19, 2016, at 09:05, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: Hi! Ok, what i did to make it work was to restart voiceover. But its not ok to have to do this every time when updating from app store. /A > On 18 May 2016, at 23:28, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com > <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I've also found that using the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2) in the App Store > instead of cmd-tabbing around also will bring focus back to the App Store. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 18, 2016, at 15:26, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com > <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'm not totally sure what's going on, but what I can tell you is this: > > The issue with losing focus in the app store, then having to command+tab > away from the window, then command tab again to go back and regain focus has > been a bug for some time now. I'm not sure why Apple's not squashed it, > seeing a lot of us have reported it. > --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> > Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Problems updating to the New Software updates >> >> Hey Chris. This is what is occuring. When i go to the app store, Voiceover >> tels me open window, but wen I move around with VO right and left arrow, I >> can't see anything until I perform the command tab,and go back to the app >> store window,and it shows me everything dmd. After waiting for a few >> minutes, the updates buttonit is not dmd anymore. So I press Vo space bar on >> updates, adn then I stop interacting with the tool bar, so I can go to the >> updates link, but it it takes me to the back dmd button. I really don't >> know why is doing that! For some reason Last night, I manage to try it for >> the first time, and the updates appear, but it did not install them. And >> last night Voiceover told me that I had seven items available. This is not >> my internet connection since I have internet connection. Voiceover told me >> now, I have two updates but I can't see them! My last update to Os10 11.4, I >> was able to do it, but this new updates for iTunes,and OS10 11.5, I'm not >> able to do it at all! Do you have any idea what could be happening? I look >> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >> >> Helga Schreiber >> >> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind >> Students. >> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as >> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px >> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> >> >> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever >> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 >> Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1 >> >> On May 18, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com >> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Helga, we need more info. >>> >>> You say it's not working. O, Kayyy? What is it doing when you try updating? >>> --- >>> Christopher Gilland >>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >>>> To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:56 PM >>>> Subject: Problems updating to the New Software updates >>>> >>>> Hi all! How are you all? I tried to do last night my iTunes update,and my >>>> Mac update to OS10 11.5, but I'm not having so much success with it! I >>>> went to the app store many ways. I Perform VO with M to go to app store, >>>> or search app store in spotlight and to about my mac to access the app >>>> store. But I'm not having so much success in performng my updates. My >>>> internet works great! I close the apps tore four times, but still issues >>>> with it. I'm using a Macbook Air 11 inches. Do you guys ahve any >>>> suggestion in how can I update without any problem? I always have issues >>>> updating! I will try to do the updates again! I tried to do it last >>>> night,and in the app store it show everything DMd and so on. I look >>>> forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >>>> >>>> Helga Schreiber >>>> >>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of >>>> Blind Students. >>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as >>>> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px >>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ <http://int4life.com/> >>>> >>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that >>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." 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