Hi Anne, My zoom was at 125%. When I changed it to 200% I got different results, but still a bit odd. After pressing return once, VoiceOver reported the insertion point as being 2.8mm right.
If I pressed return a bunch of times, I noticed the following pattern. VoiceOver would report the insertion point as 0mm right for all lines accept the last line. The last line was always 3mm right, except when there was only two lines in which case it was 2.8mm right as mentioned above. Also, the penultimate line and the last line were reported as being roughly the same distance down from the top, with sometimes 0.2mm difference, whereas every other line had about 5mm difference. Still, seems better than with zoom at 125%. Thanks for the tip! > On 28 Apr 2016, at 12:36 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: > > Hello Nick, > > I’ve just followed your steps and am not getting these weird results that you > have. After pressing Return, I’m getting `zero millimetres right every time. > I’m using the same level of Pages and of Mac OS X as you are. I have Zoom set > to 200% so that VO-F4-F4 gives more accurate results since it gives the > insertion point as shown visually on the screen, not as would be printed out. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > >> On 27 Apr 2016, at 14:33, Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com >> <mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> There are a few inaccuracies/anomalies with the keyboard insertion point as >> reported by VoiceOver in Pages 5.6.1. >> >> These can be illustrated by repeating the following steps: >> Open a new blank document in Pages from the template chooser. >> Interact with the body of the document and press VO-F4 twice quickly to have >> VoiceOver report the keyboard insertion point. Assuming you have VoiceOver >> set to speak size and position in millimetres, VoiceOver should report >> ‘Insertion is 0 millimeters right, 0 millimeters down from top left corner >> of edit text.’, which is expected behaviour. >> Press return once and then have VoiceOver announce the keyboard insertion >> point again by pressing VO-F4 twice quickly. This time VoiceOver reports the >> insertion point as, ‘Insertion is 1.7 millimeters right, 0 millimeters down >> from top left corner of edit text’, which is not expected behaviour, as the >> insertion point should have moved down but not to the right. >> Press return again and then have VoiceOver report the keyboard insertion >> point. This time it reports, ‘Insertion is 2 millimeters right, 3 >> millimeters down from top left corner of edit text’. >> Press return once more and again have VoiceOver report the insertion point. >> It reports it as ‘Insertion is 2 millimeters right, 6 millimeters down from >> top left corner of edit text.’ >> Now press the up arrow twice so that the keyboard cursor is on the second >> line of the document and have VoiceOver report the keyboard insertion point >> again. This time VoiceOver reports it as, ‘Insertion is 2 millimeters right, >> 3 millimeters down from top left corner of edit text’. This is neither >> expected behaviour (which should at least have the keyboard insertion point >> as 0mm right of top left corner of edit text) nor the same unexpected >> behaviour as encountered in step 3 above. >> Now press the down arrow once to move to the third line and have VoiceOver >> report the insertion point. This time we get ‘Insertion is 0 millimeters >> right, 6.4 millimeters down from top left corner of edit text’, which is not >> the same behaviour as encountered in step 4 above. >> If you then press the down arrow key once more to move to the fourth line >> and have VoiceOver report the insertion point, it reports it as ‘Insertion >> is 2 millimeters right, 6 millimeters down from top left corner of edit >> text’, which is odd given that it’s reported as being closer to the top left >> corner of edit text than when on line 3 as encountered in step 7 above. >> If you now press the up arrow once and then the tab key 3 times and have >> VoiceOver report the insertion point, it reports it as, ‘Insertion is 27 >> millimeters right, 6 millimeters down from top left corner of edit text.’ I >> don’t know about the accuracy of this, but at least it’s reported as being >> further right than before pressing the tab key. >> But now press the down arrow once and have VoiceOver report the insertion >> point. It’s reported as being, ‘29 millimeters right, 6 millimeters down >> from top left corner of edit text.’ For some reason pressing the tab key on >> line 3 has made VoiceOver think the insertion point at the beginning of line >> 4 is further to the right, and further than it was reported as being in step >> 8. >> >> Tested with Pages version 5.6.1 (2562) on OS X El Cap version 10.11.4. >> Australian localisation using the enhanced Karen (Australian English) voice >> on a 13" mid 2011 MacBook Air with 1.7 GHz Intel Core i5 processor, 4 GB >> 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM and Intel HD Graphics 3000 384 MB. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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