My mother is 77 and still havs trouble using her computer and as for a phone she has a very basic phone that’s not running either android or IOS, She only makes calls or sends a text / sms message, I’ve tried her with an iPhone and she had no idea,
A lot of the usability for these devices is due to the users attitude to learn and use. I work with sighted colleagues and they spit the dummy when they find voiceover on on one of our iMacs because they don’t know how to turn it off. And if I hide the mouse connected to a machine, they go crazy because they have no idea how to use a machine without a mouse. It’s all attitude. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 6:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event As much as I think iOS is on the whole superior to android, especially for blind users, it is nonetheless true that android has a huge share of the phone market worldwide. Therefore, I am not sure that your sample of two tells us much of anything. Surely, in all those places where they have all those android phones, some of the users are elderly etc. of course, part of the issue is that you can get an android phone that works reasonably well for a whole lot less then you have to pay for an iPhone. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com<mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote: Hello. Today, I was leaving London after seeing my mother. Although she is asian and can’t use computers or phones, someone had bought her an Android phone which she had not mastered. Lots of people have shown her how to use it but she can’t do it. So she begged me not to sell my I phone six plus S meaning that if I were to sell it, she would want it as I think she is seeing many people using the I phone and for her, pictures as she sees people taking pictures with their I phones. Anyway, she said she would give me money in advance so that on the event of selling my I phone six plus S, she should have it as she said that my phone looked miles better than her android phone. I was rather surprised but it just shows that sighted people say that the I phone looks better than the phone that she has. I was rather amused! My father who is over 70, will not touch an android, he says the I phone is great. So what does that tell us? On 28 Mar 2016, at 17:00, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Android has made improvements but it’s definitely not there. Then again that makes me a bad person for saying that especially on the eyes free list.:) I’m a user of both, both have their place but for real work it’s IOS for me hands down, at least so far. I like you will not stick with Apple if someone starts improving on these areas and can deliver me at least as stable and usable a solution. That’s a big ask even with Apple’s issues. I agree with you completely though. On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com<mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote: Quite right: stability is king. I can count on my two hands the number of features since, say, iOS 6 or OS X Snow Leopard that are actually relevant and necessary and that could have been engineered to perfection by now. The rest of it is so much trash. Sadly, yeah, Apple is always about “Pushing the envelope” which for practical purposes means we have to endure a never ending stream of unfinished tripe, especially now that the release cycle is once-a-year and driven by hardware release and business roadmaps rather than software quality. 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