Hi David,

Yeah was looking lastnight at that.

Was also reading the specs on the stylus again and believe it's a device  I may 
have had recently.

 It seems to say it has a disk at the writing end which sits flat on the screan 
and then you move it around to move the tip of the stylus around the screan.

If it is that device I'm thinking of then it's easy to break or was when I had 
one.

 Which is wy I'm looking but for the price might be worth checking out.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2016 9:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone

'Check on Kogan's website and see if they will ship to NZ. Given that they ship 
to some Asian countries, I would not be surprised if they do.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:12, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this Dave,
> 
> Can't seem to find it in NZ but will get a friend to pick one up in aus for 
> me.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Chittenden
> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 11:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
> 
> The following link is for a stylus which my partner says is the best stylus 
> available for the iDevice.
> 
> https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/adonit-jot-pro-stylus-with-dampening-tip-
> gun-metal-grey-adonit/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_listing_ad
> s&gclid=CjwKEAjw8bO3BRDp0bP_vL-7_lASJACL_d6w1YBNjCAlovjOzTWHKzV9q_kDHv
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> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> 
>> On 20 Mar 2016, at 10:26, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Word seemed to be doing ok when I tried handwriting in it.
>> 
>> I'm goin g to try pages also, I just need something to take notes with 
>> during meetings and my handwriting is faster than my typing.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
>> Chittenden
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 12:11 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>> 
>> Notes Plus is an app which has handwriting recognition in it. The 
>> handwriting recognition part is an in-app purchase above the $11 AUD price 
>> for the app. However, the menus are the only part of the app which is 
>> accessible. For the sighted, Notes Plus translates handwriting into computer 
>> text. It works well for low vision people in school as well.
>> 
>> You cannot handwrite in any app we know of with VoiceOver running. The app, 
>> 7 Nots HD, Prem will allow VoiceOver to read what was written, but VO blocks 
>> the ability to write in the app whilst VO is running.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 23:55, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've been looking at a couple
>>> Bamboo paper and MyScript note are a couple but yeah not overly friendly, 
>>> why these apps can't be accessible I can't figure out.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
>>> Chittenden
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 3:56 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>> 
>>> I am never sure of anything. My understanding is that they are using a 
>>> third-party handwriting recognition app. I will check with some sighted 
>>> people. iOS now permits installation of third-party keyboards (a fact which 
>>> locked me out from using the onscreen keyboard on my iPhone last year 
>>> because many of them are completely inaccessible).
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 13:58, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure?
>>>> 
>>>> I have sighted associates that use handwriting on their iPads without 
>>>> voiceover!
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
>>>> Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 9:54 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Handwriting works only with VoiceOver. It is not a standard input method 
>>>> for iOS.
>>>> 
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 02:36, Jenine Stanley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found that with the stylus I had to press harder than I would if I was 
>>>>> writing with a pen. It wasn’t a natural thing. then again, writing using 
>>>>> your finger isn’t necessarily natural either. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you note, David, the 6S and beyond have the pressure sensitive screen 
>>>>> for other uses and that really messed with using a stylus for 
>>>>> handwriting. I’ve never triggered 3D touch using my finger for 
>>>>> handwriting but using the stylus, I did so often. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here’s a question. Does handwriting work without VO? I’d assume so and of 
>>>>> course would never use it that way. 
>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 9:05 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Increased pressure would not make a difference. The iDevice screen is 
>>>>>> capacitive. The iPhone 6 S is pressure sensitive for different ways of 
>>>>>> activating buttons in apps that support it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 19 Mar 2016, at 00:52, Jenine Stanley <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve tried playing with it using the Notes app and recently tried it 
>>>>>>> with an inexpensive stylus with poor results. I’m thinking it’s more a 
>>>>>>> pressure issue with any stylus. It seems to work much better using just 
>>>>>>> the finger. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use it to bring up apps, to occasionally jot down phone numbers, 
>>>>>>> though this is less used now that I have just Press Record for my 
>>>>>>> Watch. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a friend who uses it when writing texts and email on her phone 
>>>>>>> and she swears by it with just her finger.
>>>>>>> Jenine Stanley
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes but in which application does handwriting work better, I've 
>>>>>>>> tried it in word from office 365 and pages but it isn't 
>>>>>>>> fantastic I was hoping to find something that might work better 
>>>>>>>> and a stylus of decent quality that I can write like using a 
>>>>>>>> pen and paper,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David 
>>>>>>>> Chittenden
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:53 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Handwriting on an iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Handwriting actually just uses the finger drawing the letter in print. 
>>>>>>>> Use a three finger flick down to change the case of the letter, the 
>>>>>>>> number, or punctuation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 21:43, Simon Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering if anyone is using handwriting on their iPhone or 
>>>>>>>>> iPad?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If so what do people use in the way of a stylus and or apps 
>>>>>>>>> for picking oup their handwriting
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Simon F
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