We also must remember that Apple has admitted time and time again that it 
tracks its users. The government is only forging a legal precedent in the case. 
Both sides have every possible technological door, be it front or back, to get 
any information from any Joe Blow, Jane Doe or whomever they'd like. The 
government is simply vying for precedent.

Ben
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  To: Macvisionaries 
  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 15:17
  Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search


  Where will this end?  I reckon it will end when Mr Trump becomes president 
and he will say Apple is so and so even though he has an I phone as he 
regularly seems to slag Apple off.  Seriously, will he win or will it be 
Hillary.  I notice Mr Abama is not saying anything about Apple but Mr Trump is. 
 Very cynical that Mr Trump has an I phone which he says he loves but he slags 
Apple off anyway.


  That’s my take on what’s happening in the US re politics and Apple.  Glad Tim 
Cooke is sticking to his guns as long as they are not the Islamic guns hey? :)

    On 11 Mar 2016, at 06:49, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:


    Apple is Selling You a Phone, Not Civil Liberties
    https://lawfareblog.com/apple-selling-you-phone-not-civil-liberties


      FBI and Justice Department officials, we think, can be forgiven if 
they’re a touch cynical about all of Apple’s elaborate legal argumentation and 
suspect that this all just masks what appears to be Apple’s genuine litigating 
posture towards the government: You can’t make us do anything, because we are 
immensely politically powerful, our CEO is on the phone with the President 
regularly, we are too big and way too cool to fail, and people around the world 
like us more than they like you. So what about that dead woman in Louisiana? 
Sorry, but bringing her killer to justice—and preventing his or her future 
violence—just isn’t as important as the data security of our devices. And about 
protecting people from ISIS? We’ll help out if it’s not too much trouble, but 
don’t ask us—ever—to do something that will make us look bad to the ACLU, even 
if there’s a very good legal argument that you can.


    Oof!  Nasty.  Very, very, very nasty.

    It’s quite fun, this.  Don’t you find? :)

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