I've paid a lot more for books that ar not written with the view of teaching to a blind computer user, So I think this 35 is a bloody good price concidering it's written specifically for Voiceover users
Show me another book like this that's as cheap. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Tuesday, 1 March 2016 2:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: It's finally here, a comprehensive guide to Pages on the Mac with VoiceOver That's not the point. The point is that they put a lot of hard work into creating the book, and they deserve to be paid for it. Few of us would be very happy if we went to our job one day and at the end of the day we were told that we were providing a beneficial service, so we wouldn't get paid. And unless you think that blind people are special and just deserve to have everything handed to them, everyone else pays for their knowledge. Want a book about home improvement? About using a certain kind of software? About cooking or gardening? Guess what, you're going to pay for it. There's no reason that this should be any different. Donna > On Feb 29, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Jason Shaw <crazywint...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Heard the same before. I don't think the authors will die if the book > is freely available. There are other ways of making money other than > sharing beneficial knowledge. > > On 2/29/2016 3:50 AM, E.T. wrote: >> Cross your fingers and hope Donald Trump wins the election, then >> maybe he will make everything and even the air you breathe free. >> >> You ARE free to decide not to fork over $35. At the end of the day, >> if you do not like going hungry, or sleeping outside in winter, then >> you might remember that no one else does either. Don't be so cheap. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >> true? >> >> On 2/28/2016 7:16 PM, Jason Shaw wrote: >>> $35 is still a lot for many people. This knowledge should be free to >>> everybody with an option to donate to the author. Those who have the >>> ability to will donate, those who cannot won't. >>> >>> On 2/29/2016 3:15 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote: >>>> I see both sides of this argument. >>>> >>>> On the one hand, having such a comprehensive resource freely >>>> available means that it can be given to as wide of an audience as >>>> humanly possible. However, I’m sure putting a book like this >>>> together is no simple task. It probably requires a lot of time—time >>>> that the author could be using to do other things for themselves >>>> and or their family. I have no problem compensating somebody for >>>> something as long as it’s well researched and full of useful knowledge. >>>> >>>> Also, as a person who has as one of his duties teaching Mac OS with >>>> Voiceover to clients, I’m more than willing to grab this book and >>>> encorporate some of its information into training sessions as >>>> appropriate. Also, even though $35 may seem like a lot of >>>> money—indeed it certainly may be for many people—it’s not, in the >>>> grand scheme of things, a bad price. I could see a book like this >>>> priced at or above $100, though I’ve come to expect reasonable >>>> prices from Mosen Consulting, and would be shocked if they ever >>>> tried to charge that much for this knowledge. >>>> >>>> That’s all. Back to silently observing I go. >>>> >>>> DFTBA! >>>> >>>> John D. Lipsey >>>> >>>> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Twitter: @J_TGL >>>> >>>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 20:06, Jason Shaw <crazywint...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This kind of knowledge should be free to everybody, and it will be. >>>>> Nobody should be forced to pay so much for beneficial knowledge >>>>> which would be extremely valuable to everybody, be they >>>>> financially able or not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/29/2016 2:39 AM, d.pra...@me.com wrote: >>>>>> I'd love Applevis guides and podcasts for it too. I'd love to >>>>>> have a free option to share with my assistive technology class. >>>>>> The instructors know next to nothing about pages and the Mac, and >>>>>> I was very unprepared to help them make a course for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>. >>>>>> Devin Prater >>>>>> d.pra...@me.com <mailto:d.pra...@me.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM -0800, "Kevin Chao" >>>>>> <kevincha...@gmail.com <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Has there been consideration for Numbers and KeyNote sequels? >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:03 PM Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org >>>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi everyone, Anne Robertson is one of the most helpful >>>>>> people on >>>>>> this list, particularly when it comes to using Pages. She >>>>>> clearly knows it inside-out. >>>>>> Last year, I contacted Anne and asked if she and her husband >>>>>> Archie would be willing to distill their Pages knowledge >>>>>> into an >>>>>> eBook. They agreed to do this and Mosen Consulting has >>>>>> published >>>>>> it today. The book is called "My Mac Pages" and contains over >>>>>> 40,000 words of essential info for making the most of the >>>>>> application. >>>>>> You can learn more about the book here >>>>>> <http://mosen.org/index.php/mymacpages/>. >>>>>> Thanks to Anne and Archie for doing this. 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