Actually, I beg to disagree with you. The major media is owned by 4 corporations for the most part. I was the lead network engineer for Knight-Ridder digital which was the online portion of the publisher’s products. That company no longer exists as they went the way of paper.:) I think there are a lot of Journalists who feel as you do and as I hope they do and are impartial and let the story take them where it needs to go not them creating or being manipulated to create the story. I’ve also seen the other cases where stories were pulled. I’ve also seen cases where the government threatened station owners licenses over stories. On the flip side though, there’s a lot of great citizen journalism out there and some real old school professionals doing creative things. the former editor of the SF Chronicle comes to mind with his bay area citizens project. I was also lucky to work in a cube farm next to a small online team who were in your camp. As you said you have to diversify your sources. I tend to find better reporting from outside the country. The national providers are way to bought and sold, fox, msnbc or otherwise. And since the republicans verses democrats thing came up on this tread, both parties are evil, both are owned by the special interests and both have done equal all be it different harm to our civil liberties. I’m a very strict libertarian so the whole thing is nuts to me.
I think this deviates from the thread to much though, should you wish to continue the general journalism conversation or non apple / general technology / privacy n general thread we should take it off list or else where but as this relates to Apple and our freedoms in general I hope this continues. I’m happy to see a lively discussion it means people care. That’s a step in the right direction. > On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > I have been a media professional for many years. These days, someone might > read a twitter post or a Facebook one and decide it is news, but i assure you > that the major American media is not in the pocket of the government. Far > too many of them are getting the story right to base an entire industry on > one station using one newsroom located in one city. > I am not surprised someone corrected the issue on air in California though. > Kare <card carrying member of the society of professional journalists. > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: > >> No, they are traditional news sources. The KGO radio story ran for more >> than one day with that misinformation. It was one of the talk show hosts >> themselves that set the news department straight on the air. WBZ I have no >> idea what their problem is, it’s a major CBS station. I think it just >> convinces me more that the media is in the pocket of the government. It’s >> the gun deal all over again, spread as much misinformation and then act like >> it was an honest mistake. >> >> >>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> really? >>> Would love to know what reporter with those outlets did not do their >>> homework. >>> A swift review of google news sources clears up that mystery..frankly so >>> does reading Tim's statement. >>> were those blogs? >>> Might explain the error. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>>> CBS, WBZ out of Boston this morning was reporting that Apple was being >>>> asked to break in to the individual phone only, not develop a tool to >>>> access all phones which is in fact the case. >>>> >>>> Also, KGO out of San Francisco was reporting the same thing. So no but >>>> I’m glad to see that the sources you mention are discussing the topic >>>> correctly. >>>> >>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering what media you are following. >>>>> articles in the La times, the Washington post, bloomberg, even usa today, >>>>> are linking directly to Mr. Cook's statement. Further many are sharing >>>>> how the FBI could be solving this issue, taking note of other industry >>>>> companies who are concerned. Almost everywhere I have read points out >>>>> that the >>>>> FBI seeks a master key, and that this is more than than about one phone. >>>>> Unless you are just reading fox news that is laughs. >>>>> Kare >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ET very well stated. >>>>>> >>>>>> The thing that amazes me is how the Media in the US is totally mistaking >>>>>> what Apple has been asked to do. Apple is not being asked to hack in to >>>>>> the specific phone, they probably can’t. They are being asked to create >>>>>> a tool that the government can use with out limitation to circumvent any >>>>>> security on the iPhone. That’s BS which for the easily offended is >>>>>> short form for horse hockey. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is just another attempt like clipper was in the mid 90s to make an >>>>>> end run right around the 4th amendment. And you also correctly state >>>>>> once in place there’s no getting rid of it. Remember, the patriot act >>>>>> and father land security I mean home land security were also supposed to >>>>>> be temporary. Good luck! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:36 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good for Tim Cook. I heard comments from both sides of the fence and I >>>>>>> say, once Big Brother moves in, there is no evicting him. Sure, its a >>>>>>> sticky wicket. We want to get the bad guy but at what cost? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/18/2016 9:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being >>>>>>>> forced to cripple the security on iPhones. 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