No, It's quite OK.  I appreciate the help.  Your suggestion certainly is valid. 
 Don't mistake things here.  I'll most definitely look into it further.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Voice Over routing: was: Re: deatailed posts: a suggestion


  True, but, the Griphin iMike would still help I think.  IF you can get your 
hands on a good speaker with volume control that is still portable, or, even 
better, a USB based speaker which has its own volume.  Point is, there's bound 
to be a solution for you somehow.  Just trying to improvise through it.




  !


  Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

  Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


    On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Yeah, the whole idea though, being this is a macbook we're working with 
though is to be as mobally portable as possible.  I didn't mention initially 
this was a macbook, which is my fault.  Sorry about that.

    Chris.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ray Foret Jr
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 7:40 PM
      Subject: Voice Over routing: was: Re: deatailed posts: a suggestion


      Here's a thought.  Perhaps if you had a USB device such as the Griphin 
iMik, you could rout Voice over to this and plug in a regular non blue tooth 
speaker in the 3.5MM jack?  Now that should solve your problem:  especially if 
the speaker has its own volume?  

      !


      Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


      Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

      Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


        On Jan 11, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


        John, that is actually an excellent idea.  The only reason that I 
wouldn't want to do that is, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't audio from 
Voiceover a little bit laggy/sluggish due to the limitations of the A2DP 
protocol?  My speaker has a feature where after about 10 seconds of no use, it 
goes into a sleep like mode.  Therefore, when it detects sound again, it takes 
about 4 to 5 seconds to wake back up.  Therefore it almost makes using 
Voiceover either with OSX or with I O S unusable.  I do! like the way you're 
thinking though.  I wonder if they make speakers, not headsets, but speakers 
which don't take electricity, but are simply USB bus powered, which would be 
seen as their own audio output device.  If so, and you could suggest an 
inexpensive model, then I'd be very very open to giving that a try.

        Chris.

        ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" <jpanar...@gmail.com>
        To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 7:05 PM
        Subject: Re: deatailed posts: a suggestion


         Well, you inadvertently proved my point.

         I’m sorry Boom didn’t work out for you. It was, as I said, a 
suggestion, and it served a purpose for me when I was using it on an earlier 
Mac model. There has to be a solution that works for you though. Can you use a 
bluetooth speaker and just send the VO volume to it alone?


        Take Care

        John D. Panarese
        Director
        Mac for the Blind
        Tel, (631) 724-4479
        Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
        Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

        APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

        AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

        MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




          On Jan 11, 2016, at 7:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

          John, I didn't word it the way you wrote because the question wasn't 
can I increase the volume.  I'm not sure what part of that you all don't seem 
to comprehend.  I know you can do it.  So, asking that would! have been 
extraneous.

          My question was, what am I doing wrong in this dad blamed VO prefs 
file that is causing it not to let me uncap the volume.

          BTW, I did try boom, but will be attempting to get a refund.  As to 
not give too much... detail... I won't bore the apparent 99.99 percent of you, 
but we'll just say itt wound up audio wise being a bonified disaster!

          If you want to know more, then, ask, but until someone does so, I'm 
not budging in fear of my toosh getting kicked, maybe not by you, but by E T or 
others.

          Chris.

          ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Panarese" 
<jpanar...@gmail.com>
          To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
          Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:07 PM
          Subject: Re: deatailed posts: a suggestion


          Hi Ray,
          Details as far as the issue you are having and why you are asking eh 
question only helps in the matter. I haven’t noticed anything with the way you 
post. It’s just that when you have to read through a preamble before you get to 
a question that could be asked in one or two sentences and doesn’t require a 
back story, well, that frustrates me.

            For example, with the issue involved with this subject or initial 
subject, it simply could have been posted as, “I prefer using the Fred voice on 
the Mac for personal reasons, but I find that the volume of that voice is not 
acceptable to my hearing limitations. Does anyone know of a solution that will 
increase the volume of the Fred voice without effecting the system sounds or 
other sounds on the Mac?”

          Everyone has their own writing style. I wasn’t trying to open        
a can of worms, but only make a suggestion. Remember that long, drawn out posts 
probably will not be responded to by most people because they will end up 
deleting it before giving you a chance, and, thus, you don’t get the help you 
desire from the list members.


          Take Care

          John D. Panarese
          Director
          Mac for the Blind
          Tel, (631) 724-4479
          Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
          Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

          APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

          AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

          MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




            On Jan 11, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

            Perhaps this might be helpful.  It's clear that Chris and I like to 
write detailed posts:  but, it's equally clear not everone likes to read them. 
So, here's a thought.  Perhaps we who love to write detailed posts should put 
what questions we may have right up front with the details below. This way, 
someone who is not inclined to read detailed posts doesn't need to bother with 
the detail:           while, on the other hand, those who need or wish to have 
the detail can read further down should they whish or need to do so.  This goes 
not just for Chris but for me also:  since, you see, I tend to be somewhat the 
same way.


            !

            Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the 
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            Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

            Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon 
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