Aa, doubletalk. O, Kayyyy. Yeah. No, I was never blessed enough to own
any note taker with a braille display. I wish!
I'd kill for a pacmate display. My friend has one of the very first
packmate PM40 displays, and he's brought it with him quite a few times when
coming to visit me. Usually by the end of his stay, I'm crying not wanting
to give it back. LOL! Anyway, I had a doubletalk. I probably still do,
but God only knows where the thing is! Even if I did, I don't think JFW
would support it, and, to keep this on topic, I don't think Voiceover will
let you interface with any hardware synths, which is a crying shame, in my
opinion.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn Krasniuk" <bbssh...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: Vocalizer Expressive Compared with JAWS
Hey Chris. Did you own a Braille Lite Millennium series notetaker? The
LiteTalk voice is what they use in those notetakers. Some people call it
DoubleTalk, but when I was in school it was called LiteTalk.
Shawn
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On Jan 10, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wonder when someone will make an NVDA addon of the Alex voice. Now that!
would be cool. I highly doubt we'll ever see that day though. But then
again, I never thought we'd see Eloquence for the mac either. Yeah, you
heard right. There is indeed an Eloquence for the mac, but it's illegally
been reversed engineered to make it work, and not only that but trust me,
even if you are! into cracking, which I'm not, and am not even about to
support anyone who thinks it is a good idea, even however if you were into
doing something that dishonest, trust me. From what little I've been
told, not trying it myself, it's not worth it. It crashes almost
constantly.
My point being though, if they could get that to work kind a sort of, then
who's to say someone couldn't, or wouldn't! make an Alex addon.
Whether it would be legal to do? That? I can't say one way or another.
I'm not sure. It probably wouldn't be though.
I dunno. I'm just randomly thinking. LOL!
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu"
<listse...@me.com>
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 12:47 AM
Subject: Vocalizer Expressive Compared with JAWS
For my amusement, I downloaded all the Nuance Vocaliser voices from
Freedom Scientific that I normally use with VoiceOver on OS X. For added
fun, I downloaded all versions of the voices (standard from RealSpeak Solo
and premium and premium-high for Vocaliser and Vocaliser Expressive).
From this I established a few interesting things:
I enjoyed using Vocaliser Expressive rather more on JAWS than I normally
do in VoiceOver. This was a very pleasant surprise. There is no startup
delay, and the voice is smooth and doesn’t incorrectly pronounce stray
punctuation marks while reading text. I found it more responsive even
than Eloquence in my XP virtual machine, but not more responsive than the
version in OS X.
More significantly, though, the OS X and iOS version of the synthesiser
has a very strange behaviour of raising the pitch, where the JAWS version
doesn’t. To illustrate, try comparing JAWS and VoiceOver saying “Notes”.
This I had always attributed to the expressive nature of Vocaliser
Expressive, thinking that the previous version was only of better quality
because it didn’t exhibit that behaviour. But now I hear, using JAWS,
that Expressive is indeed an improvement in several key areas of
inflection.
In case you’re wondering, I honestly didn’t see much to shout about in the
Expressive versions compared to the similar-quality Vocaliser 5 versions.
Indeed, I wish Apple would offer the lower-quality premium voices as
opposed to compact. My Sara unit is still using the standard-quality
Realspeak technology, and one of the nice things about that is that you
don’t have to listen too hard to pick out the subtle consonants like Ss.
I’d’ve been just fine if Apple had not moved on to the Expressive voices.
However you slice it, concatenative synthesis is fundamentally limited by
the accuracy of the sound samples.
Does anybody have any thoughts?
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