Vaughn, I’m with you I find this an interesting topic and to relate it to the list I’m interested in how Apple really changed this game dramatically. It hit me the other day I don’t own a CD player any more. My laptops don’t have the drive, I don’t have one in my audio system, my car doesn’t have one and to really stress the point I don’t think my family owns a CD player. (forget turntable or other media) Everything I have now is centered around Apple or Google, streaming boxes and really more of an on demand model than whole album model like you said. You really make some interesting points. It’s a total shift. I don’t even have the big wooden furniture to hold the media and all the playback equipment. Everything now is thin panels, glass and metal shelving and tiny with the benefit of being wireless. Wow.
I wonder if it’s less money for musicians but more fairly distributed or just less money for the big names. I would have to think with the cost of entry being so low now a lot more musicians as you said could get their name and product out there. No need for a label. Hell you could probably start to make a decent living with a good regional act. I’d be interested in what other musicians think as well between the old and new model and which they prefer. I’m also really interested in how Apple has changed the game by allowing the Artist to publish directly. > On Dec 8, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > I am interested in hearing what other's see as I am a musician, too. > Thank you for your insight. I heard what I mentioned on a music > program through NPR. However, it is also true that one person's expert > opinion is just one and there are a variety of them out there. > I think the bigger picture is that musicians make less money when it > comes to the singles or selling of whole albums. It is also fair to > say that musicians have more opportunities to market themselves > because if the digital era of social media and music applications. > Where one may lack the other may improve. > Vaughn > > On 12/8/15, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >> Vaughn, I’m not sure this is true. While it’s probably true that the artist >> makes less they also get to keep more of the take per sale than they would >> have with a label. Remember, Apple for example if memory servers gives you >> 70 cents on the dollar where you might only get 10 or 20 with a regular >> record deal. >> Another thing I know first hand is artists are making more money in the >> performance space now than ever. My family has a business that supports all >> the shows for the casinos and venus in the North East and there’s more work >> than ever. Casinos especially up here have large venus now and have big >> name shows come through. The money being made performing is huge. >> >> If you’re unsure, ask Adele who moved 2.5 million full albums on iTunes in >> one weekend.:) >> >> Interesting topic though. The music industry has changed much like others >> have, technology has that effect. >> >>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Vaughn Brown <jazzdress...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> All I know is that musicians are not making as much money as they did >>> when selling albums and records in stores. This is because people ca >>> now buy singles instead of the entire set. >>> I still prefer to buy physical records because I know it will fund the >>> musicians more. >>> Vaughn >>> >>> On 12/8/15, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> Tidal i think its called. >>>> They don’t have much music though as you mentioned. >>>> /A >>>>> On 08 Dec 2015, at 16:17, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know, I know the service JZ launched, the name escapes me right >>>>> now, used lossless compression and had a high end audio mode. This >>>>> streaming stuff is cool but we’re losing 7/8ths of the music to lossy >>>>> compression. >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:07 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> Yes thats true. >>>>>> I wonder if spotify has a higher resolution. >>>>>> /A >>>>>>> On 08 Dec 2015, at 14:28, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know what else, the music streamed on Applemusic sounds like a >>>>>>> lower >>>>>>> resolution to me than the music you buy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>> I’d thought so but is there any fade setings in the music app? >>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>> On 08 Dec 2015, at 13:46, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whooooo your off the grid. Maybe you need to turn off your fad >>>>>>>>> in/out >>>>>>>>> All your songs have the time and I just timed one and it was rite >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders >>>>>>>>> Holmberg >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 03:54 >>>>>>>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Apple music conspiracy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>> I might be a bit strange but sometimes i wonder if songs on apple >>>>>>>>> music has been shortened. >>>>>>>>> Its just a feeling i have when listen to music i have on my ipad. >>>>>>>>> It sounds like songs are fading out faster then they should. >>>>>>>>> I don’t say i am right and i do hope i am so wrong i can bee. >>>>>>>>> What do you all think. >>>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>> contact >>>>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> Cara Quinn - 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