I know Apple can do well. I've seen it a lot in iOS. But we just have bugs upon 
bugs to deal with, and I'm just not sure what the quality control people do 
with accessibility. For example, right now there is a bug in iOS where if you 
use a bluetooth keyboard and arrow arround, and you hit a space, it won't say 
space at all. Sure, the smallest of bugs, but it still makes Apple look sloppy, 
just like Google. Google has had this problem with Docs for ages, but 
everywhere else Apple is wonderful, but they're starting to fail at 
accessibility.

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> On Oct 24, 2015, at 1:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> I don’t agree that executives shouldn’t know about accessibility.  They may 
> not know the details, but they ought to understand the urgency and 
> importance.  Steve Jobs was once the CEO of Apple and he demoed the latest 
> products for his admiring audience; he didn’t palm the job off to his 
> engineers.  If Steve Jobs could understand what made Apple products great, 
> then so can his underlings, past and future.
> 
> As for the comment that VoiceOver is merely one part of accessibility, that 
> may be completely accurate, but it’s irrelevant to a discussion about quality 
> control.  We are the customers and we expect a great experience while using 
> VoiceOver.  Perhaps you accept that a mainstream company can never deliver 
> the quality expected of an accessibility company, but others might not.  To 
> these people, Apple’s offering is inferior and you are endorsing the view 
> that we should merely be grateful for an inferior alternative instead of what 
> we deserve.  I am one of these people.  I want and expect VoiceOver to be 
> indistinguishable in quality from fully-paid Windows screen readers, and fear 
> that Apple’s internalising of VoiceOver puts it under unwelcome business 
> pressures that adversely affect us, particularly in recent times, and not 
> just for an initial release either.  I would prefer not to move to Windows, 
> but if I did, it would only because I finally accepted that Apple’s strategy 
> was untenable.
> 
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