about the sound from the mail on my mac, i hear sounds whenever i receive an 
email.
> On 04 Oct 2015, at 12:59 PM, Craig Werner <coffeeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Mark, for your compliments. Actually, the reboot I performed was 
> more of an act of desperation than it was calculated strategy, so I don't 
> think the praise is entirely deserved, but I am appreciative of the 
> encouragement because so often, over the past few months, I have considered 
> returning to Windows as I ascend Mount Mac. (smile)
> 
> The only issues I have found with El Capitan so far are the "Safari busy" 
> problem and the disappearance of the "new mail" sound when new messages are 
> received. Both, I believe, have been documented on this list. I'll keep 
> everyone informed as to new discoveries.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu 
> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:
> Hello Craig,
> 
> As a new Mac user, you should be extremely proud of yourself.  It takes a lot 
> of guts to install a new OS, especially after so short of a time at the helm.
> 
> Just think about it, both you and I came up with the exact same solution and 
> I've been doing this for over 7 years; I don't know if that says more about 
> you or about me (big, big smile).  My point is that, in my opinion, you did 
> the correct thing in powering down the computer and rebooting.
> 
> As for how the OS was successfully installed, suffice me to say that all of 
> the proverbial heavy-lifting was already done by the time the setup assistant 
> was launched.  This is just a guess but I suspect that the problem for both 
> of us was simply some kind of a video display glitch.  Generally speaking, 
> the setup assistant assesses what passwords and such need to be entered by 
> the user before proceeding.  However, all of the mission-crucial tasks have 
> already been completed.
> 
> After my reboot, I received a couple of password prompts that I would 
> probably have received during the setup process, nothing more.
> 
> Finally, as for the issues you are encountering, if you feel up to it, I 
> would appreciate it if you would begin a new thread detailing them so we can 
> all compare notes, as it were.
> 
> Craig, well done on your installation and, if I have not expressed the 
> sentiment earlier, welcome to the family.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <javascript:;> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Craig 
> Werner
> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: Two Interesting Things That Occurred During My Installation of 
> El Capitan
> 
> Mark, the installer progress bar lingered for me as well.  I did the same 
> thing as you did: turn off the machine and then turn it back on.  I don't 
> know know how El Capitan installed itself, but it did.  This odd behavior is 
> especially disturbing to me as a new Mac user of two months.  I am wondering 
> if some of the problems I am having with El Capitan are due to the way it was 
> installed--a process I rather bumbled my way through.  I'm not at all proud 
> of my achievement and am now thinking of reverting back to Yosemite.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> On Saturday, October 3, 2015, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <javascript:;>> wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I cannot recall if this has been covered, on-list, but thought I would share
> two issues of some note, that occurred during my installation of El Capitan.
> 
> 1.
> Upon successful download of El Capitan from the App Store, the installer did
> not automatically launch.  This did not bother me as I always cancel the
> installer until I make a USB install key.
> 
> 2.
> Rather than wiping my hard drive clean and installing El Capitan, fresh,
> which I intend to do in a couple of weeks, I elected to install the OS over
> the current install of Yosemite.  Upon restarting, and after the setup
> assistant had launched, the install progress screen refused to disappear.  I
> could enable/disable VoiceOver, I could use several of the VoiceOver
> commands but the installation progress window, containing the Apple logo and
> a completed progress bar remained.  After about an hour of waiting, I
> powered down the computer and restarted.  All has been well ever since.
> 
> Just a quick note to say that I never experienced this behavior during the
> beta cycle.
> 
> Mark
> 
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