I too thought this was a little brutal, but I’ve always appreciated Yuma’s knowledge and quest of, in the advancement of programming for accessibility and possible A.I. Implementation. If Yuma’s already gone, I’ll miss her posts. If not, please re-consider, and know that all of us are at different levels of computer knowledge. I’m on this list to ask questions when I need to, and read questions that are above my expertise, so as to gain more knowledge. And yeah, MacVisionaries has always included everything in the Apple Eco-system for as long as I can remember. This means since 2008 at least.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 12:13 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: > > No kidding. That was kinda a snobby thing you just posted Yuma. > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs > Skype username: bbstheblindrapper > Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > >> On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well, I am not sure but I think I've been insulted! My friend I think you're >> going to have to start your own such list. I mean, after all, look who >> you're asking for advice and direction. Very same people you think are fools >> adios my friend good luck bye >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Considering the kind of polemics this list is going through, and that I >>> haven’t seen one topic of which I am not aware of being an older mac os/ios >>> user, I think it is time to shut my subscription from this list and look >>> for a more adapted list which tries to advance the ideas of technology, and >>> voice over in particular. May someone point me to a list which basically >>> does not discuss so much about how to click this icon or make this boot >>> drive work with that OS but rather a more creative output of ideas, >>> developer topics and other subjecst that may appeal more to computer >>> scientists, programmers and other creative heads? I know of some list that >>> goes in this line, but I am looking for a place where everyone, or a large >>> majority is a blind apple developer, programmer or tech industrial who uses >>> xcode or can enter a more intellectually stimulating line of topics to help >>> me understand better what blind/visually impaired users are looking for in >>> apps, technologies such as A.I, machine learning as applied to apps or even >>> conceptual discussions for sonificating apps for games and interactive >>> media? Or does such a list exist? >>> >>> In any case, I hope this list will clean up a bit as now it has become a >>> large boudoir of everyone throwing in their opinion on every topic, which >>> has become very tedious and superfluous at this point. I am not pointing >>> fingers at anyone in particular, but hope that as a group, this list will >>> start putting more emphasis on what matters. Action is much more >>> respectable than politics and competing to have the most score in giving >>> technical advice or saying what you think. I have noticed one very >>> important difference between sighted and visually impaired users. The >>> former are inundated with visual advertising and therefore know how to >>> filter out the superfluous. As a blind programmer, I live in a world almost >>> devoid of any ads save youtube, and therefore am much aware of the >>> superfluous. So I preffer filtering it out rather than sticking to some >>> strange illusion of grandeur over being in some list where everyone is >>> cackering over everything. In some ways, this is counter productive as it >>> is hours and hours of writing back and forth, every day. Think about it. It >>> has no utility and no intrinsic value. >>> >>> But people get addicted to it, just like anything else in the world. I’d >>> rather get addicted to producing music, apps, creating technologies and >>> being outdoors camping, going to festivals, socialising, dining and doing >>> sports than being addicted to responding to tech help requests. >>> >>> In any case, take care of yourselves everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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