So if I Image my boot camp partition, then I deleted, reinstall it, and then 
restore it, would it boot? I assume not because as you said it wouldn't copy 
everything, only where there is data. I'm just confused. :-) I should just come 
in and Match the start and  sectors of the partition tables.

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> On Sep 12, 2015, at 12:41 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> that would work. you can create a sparse image of the drive as an image file 
> on another volume. the beauty about this is that only those places that have 
> data will be copied. ANything without data will simply be ignored (as a zero 
> space allocation). THis generally only works if you create a sparse image 
> volume to mimic a hard dis and then do a copy of all the files inside the 
> partition. its not exactly a bit for bit backup, but it serves as a stopgap.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Joe Quinn wrote:
>> 
>> there's an "image" function in disk utilitity. would that work or do 
>> anything? it's in the tolbar with firstaid, restore, etc.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I mentioned dd. Believe me, its a lot better than msbackup. the last time I 
>>> used MS Backup, it missed a number of files in my user settings directory. 
>>> so, these days, I backup the windows partition to an external drive as an 
>>> image file. I do so once per week and only keep 2 consecutive backups. THis 
>>> way, I have the next most recent and the most recent backups on hand should 
>>> something be amiss.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 11, 2015, at 5:50 AM, - wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Someone mentioned "dd" as a backup utility in terminal.  Ditto and rsync 
>>>> can perform the same function.  In google use "os10 backup" and one of the 
>>>> names for tons of web sites for using them as backup.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joe Quinn wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are some good back up programs that will back up my Mac OS X drive 
>>>>> as well as the Boot Camp partition? I think I'm going to need it. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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