Well here is part of the issue the subject lind does not match up to the conversation any more and now this is really a big issue on this list also!!!
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 08:09 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article The point is, that does not work since there are others who reply to his abuses, and I receive these emails too. I’m not going to rule everyone for one offensive member. > On 27/08/2015, at 1:04 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to the > trash. > > Simple, problem solved and no moderation. > >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ET is right, I am afraid to say this. >> >> I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted, then >> asked pardon, justifying some personal issues which do not belong to any >> mailing list, then repeat the process almost within the hour. If he is so >> defensive and threatening towards so many people, this is because these >> responders also feel offended by his words. There is a democratic process >> going on, a natural finger pointing of someone who just abuses the fact that >> there are no moderators in this list. Some of us try to resolve this one way >> or the other but nothing will be done if no one takes action, gas bagging >> and cackering instead in the drainpipe of opinionated expression. The latter >> is useless. Action can solve everything. >> >> Take care >> >> >> >>> On 27/08/2015, at 12:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> There are as many opinions here as there are members of this group. This >>> issue is generating a lot of traffic that is not helpful to the grpup. We >>> have one person who cannot control himself. Banning him will break the >>> fever and let the group move on. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 8/26/2015 7:31 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>>> A very simple solution is for everyone to be aware that the list is >>>> moderated, and throw in a public warning to whoever is continuously >>>> abusing others verbally, not necessarily ban the person. The point is to >>>> make the offensive person reflect on themselves. Banning them would result >>>> in upsets and possible worse attitudes in other lists. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 26/08/2015, at 10:39 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes until you’ve eventually removed everyone from deviating from your >>>>> acceptable use over time. >>>>> >>>>> Banning someone from any mailing list is just weak sauce. The only >>>>> exception to that at least for me is spammers. There have been serious >>>>> lack of moderation and spam problems on other lists like the eyesore list >>>>> from Google. Automated programs dumping recruiting adds and so forth is >>>>> just disruptive. Pending that though I couldn’t see banning someone. >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:06 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos. >>>>>> Removing that person permanently would return the list to a relatively >>>>>> peaceful and more focused environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>> Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, >>>>>>> totally noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back >>>>>>> toward the noisy end. I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it >>>>>>> style of discussion, but there’s something to be said for having a >>>>>>> person—possibly just one person—with a hand near to the levers that >>>>>>> restore calm and order in times of imminent crisis. 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