Hi All, As one of the older members of this list, I want to add an emphasis on how the filter does not really work as the replies and objections to the abuse still keep streaming in. Meaning I have to sift through fallout emails from the abuse, as well as replies commenting on how off topic this one person’s posts are.
There is, in my opinion, one issue. One person who keeps abusing others without really handing logical or rational justifications for the abuse. A moderator is useful in that respect and I fully support the idea of having someone just put some order in the list. Not handing bans and evictions like flyers but some kind of a public warning with well intended words. Otherwise this list will end up being a boudoir more than a list for talking about voice over. I had ignored this place for a while due to the number of threatening responses etc I got from a single user in the list who apparently has not abated his diatribes, emotional tantrums and other such inconsistencies throughout. I don’t receive his emails anymore, but he clearly is overshadowing this list with his brand of abusive language and non sequitur posts. There are many of us on this list who are real developers and work hard in communicating various useful links and opinions, some of us have been dilligently bug reporting on non public betas for years with the intention to make the experience better, and care about this list. But of late, this has turned into a free for all firing range. Maybe it’s time to give it a renaissance, and really have someone step in and provide the necessary tools to keep it together without it being something of a totalitarian group, which in itself is ridiculous considering we are memebers of a virtual community. And if there needs to be some shaving off elements who clearly don’t understand due process when interacting with others, then first go through the due process of warning that person. If all of these emails from one thread, most talking about the same person, is not a sign of consensus then what is? Have a great day > On 26/08/2015, at 11:13 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: > > Hi, > I wasn’t going to chime in here at all but rather see where this all goes, > but here is what i think for what it’s worth: I agree with Donna on where > this list should go. I’m not entirely sure branching off would be the best > way of doing things because it would only divide the community and leave new > people confused. > /Krister > > > On 26 Aug 2015, at 14:03, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> As some of you will no doubt recall, I brought this very possibility up some >> months back, when we were getting some rather unpleasant emails from >> someone's hacked account. It does seem to me that this list has had more >> problems of late, and that having someone setting some guidelines and >> enforcing them would benefit this list. that said, at its best, this has >> been one of the best lists I've ever been on and I would hate to see it >> disintegrate. Since tyler is willing to take on some of these moderation >> duties, I wonder if a better option would be for tyler and Chris to work >> together to moderate this list, rather than having tyler branch off and >> start a new one. Just a thought. >> Best, >> Donna >>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hello all: >>> I understand there's been a lot of mess on this list and at least two >>> people I know of have left--that's not counting however many vanished >>> without saying anything. >>> >>> I believe this is a great community and I don't want to see it die off >>> or fall under the issues it has been. I understand a lot of us (this >>> includes me) are at fault to one extreme or another. >>> >>> To this end and to try to preserve this community, I've started a new >>> list. I'd like to welcome everyone to join. Regardless of past posts >>> here and anything else, we start with a clean slate. There are a set >>> of well-defined rules; if you join and see something that needs to be >>> edited/added, please do let me know. Similarly, if you have questions, >>> please get in touch with me. >>> >>> I will be the only moderator at present until everything is soarted >>> out, then I'd like to get someone else involved. I'll probably be >>> putting that call out shortly. >>> >>> My personal address is ty...@tysdomain.com for any questions. >>> Also, the list information is as follows: >>> Subscribers can join the list by sending email to >>> macvisionaries-requ...@freelists.org >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by >>> visiting the list page at >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/macvisionaries >>> >>> I hope that this will help. 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