Daniel,

You’re right.  However, when a person decides to act outside of the bounds of 
the conventions that govern a societies behavior, he or she must & should be 
called to task for their actions.  When they refuse to modify their behavior or 
incapable of doing so, then they must be removed from that society.  It happens 
everyday.  Sometime, it can be accomplished through ignoring the individual.  
Unfortunately on the other hand, sometimes a person must be forcefully removed, 
as in being removed from a list.  A larger example of this in the world @ large 
would be imprisoning an individual whose behavior endangers fellow citizens.  
The idea that no one is ever called to task or publicly ridiculed by the hive 
is both impractical and idealistic to a fault.  But, come to think of it, it 
does seem to be the politically correct thing to do these days.  Let’s consider 
the feelings of the offender over the feelings & standards of the offended.

CJ


> On Aug 2, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I thought this list was for the discussion of OS X and VoiceOver, not a 
> stomping ground for ridicule and what’s turning into near constant 
> immaturity? Just saying...
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 6:37 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Aleeha,
>> 
>> I applaud your efforts.  Every little bit helps.  As stated in another post, 
>> the sooner you start ignoring Christopher Mark, the better off we’ll all be. 
>>  Sorry he’s such a bother.  By the way, pretty name.
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 5:02 AM, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really don't appreciate your attitude sir. It is not called for in the 
>>> least and I really don't need that kind of negativity. You need to mind 
>>> your own business and let others do what they are going to do. I just don't 
>>> appreciate that garbage from you. Asking questions is one thing. Publicly 
>>> being rude and nasty to me is something that I will not tolerate. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Aleeha wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In order to join this group, you must be running at
>>>>> least one of the betas.
>>>> 
>>>> And... you are going to verify that the person saying they're running the 
>>>> betas isn't bullshitting you... um... how?
>>>> 
>>>> Let's see, I'm running 8.4, but I'll tell you I'm running 9 beta just so I 
>>>> can get on.  Are you gonna call the Apple police to find out if I really 
>>>> am? on 9?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 2:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi is it ok to share this information with my Tech Zone list?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/08/2015 04:39, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I have created a Google group for the discussion of iOS and OS10
>>>>>> public betas. In order to join this group, you must be running at
>>>>>> least one of the betas. To join, please send an email to
>>>>>> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>> This group will be moderated by myself and Matt Dierckens.
>>>>>> Please send us an email with any questions you might have. My email is
>>>>>> blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com and Matt's is matt.dierck...@me.com.
>>>>>> Happy beta testing and we will see you on the group!
>>>>> 
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