Your problem is that you're always like that. You get your snarky message out, 
and then you apologize afterwards, like you mean it. I have trouble believing 
that you actually mean it. Like your last message, berating me, you just seem 
to say things in a mean way and not care. So yes, I read your email, but I'm 
not sure I believe it.

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I frankly know you haven't done anything wrong, and that's why I apologised. 
> You took the quote, but, part totally out of context.  I said what I said, 
> and had you actually taken the time to read my message, you'd a known that. 
> Just for the record, I said I was sorry for coming across so rudely.  I 
> totally agree initially that I over reacted in how I presented my original 
> question.  This said however, I'm not sorry for the question itself.  That's 
> all I meant by the but thing.  I'm sorry for how I treated you, but not for 
> my initial question.  Is that too hard for you to grasp?
> 
> Look, you created a list.  I don't agree with it, I think you're violating 
> the NDA, I've never once seen where it says you can discuss it publicly or 
> with other testers outside the community forums, and each time I challenge 
> any of you to show me where it says that, you say go read the terms.  I have 
> done so time after time after time and don't see any reference, and none of 
> you ever take me up on my challenge, and show me word per word where it says 
> this is ok.  The point is, you obviously don't like me, you don't appreciate 
> me, so why do you keep writing me!  If I really am a troll as you say, then 
> grow up, move on, leave me alone, and quit getting the last word for Christ 
> sake!  I said initially I was sorry, but then you had to come back with your 
> remark that I went against what I said initially, which you damn well know 
> isn't true!
> 
> If you don't want to hear my comments, then block me, as frankly, I'm tired 
> of the bullshit!  I made one? comment, is it really worth this much list 
> drama that you guys are producing?  Get over it!  Move on!  The fat lady sang!
> 
> You all keep complaining about me, and saying just ignore me.  If you wanna 
> be mature, then practice what you preach!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> OK, now, rant aside, back to Apple! related things for pete sakes!
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley" 
> <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!
> 
> 
> You know what? I was being fairly nice to you, given your treatment of me. 
> But, as someone mentioned earlier, your apology isn't really one, because you 
> place the word but after it. Which means you were completely disregarding 
> everything you just said. And I don't care to be treated like this. I've not 
> done anything wrong, and you need to shut your mouth.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Who's really the troll here?  I made one! Literally! One? comment, and you 
>> idiots blew it outta perportion!
>> 
>> I'm sorry that you don't agree with my way of thinking, but I apologized for 
>> my little outburst this morning!  You know what though, as rude as you 
>> all're being in return, I wonder if my apology should have been made to 
>> start with!  Frankly, E T is right! There isn't a need, as frankly, no 
>> longer am! I sorry!  If you all wanna list to break the Apple terms of 
>> service, go for it!  But be sure to ban me while you're at it, as frankly, I 
>> have no intrest in joining a group consisting of bed-wetting 
>> children/whiners!
>> 
>> You hear something you don't like, and you immediately then initiate the 
>> chinwag of, he's a dick, he's a troll, etc. etc.
>> 
>> It takes one to know one!  That's all I'll say.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley" 
>> <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 10:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!
>> 
>> 
>> And now we are feeding patrol. Let's all just shut up and deal with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 10:43 AM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just ignore him. He's generally a dick where a lot of things are
>>> concerned. Don't take it personally.
>>> 
>>>> On 8/2/2015 1:02 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
>>>> I really don't appreciate your attitude sir. It is not called for in the 
>>>> least and I really don't need that kind of negativity. You need to mind 
>>>> your own business and let others do what they are going to do. I just 
>>>> don't appreciate that garbage from you. Asking questions is one thing. 
>>>> Publicly being rude and nasty to me is something that I will not tolerate.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 3:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aleeha wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In order to join this group, you must be running at
>>>>>> least one of the betas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And... you are going to verify that the person saying they're running the 
>>>>> betas isn't bullshitting you... um... how?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's see, I'm running 8.4, but I'll tell you I'm running 9 beta just so 
>>>>> I can get on.  Are you gonna call the Apple police to find out if I 
>>>>> really am? on 9?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 2:56 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: apple beta discussion group created!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi is it ok to share this information with my Tech Zone list?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/08/2015 04:39, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> I have created a Google group for the discussion of iOS and OS10
>>>>>>> public betas. In order to join this group, you must be running at
>>>>>>> least one of the betas. To join, please send an email to
>>>>>>> apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>> This group will be moderated by myself and Matt Dierckens.
>>>>>>> Please send us an email with any questions you might have. My email is
>>>>>>> blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com and Matt's is matt.dierck...@me.com.
>>>>>>> Happy beta testing and we will see you on the group!
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