Independent in that they are not needed to work the other. That is, not dependent on each other for anything. You can ask Siri to do things for you but not everything. For example, you could ask Siri to play a song in the Music app, but I don't believe that you could tell him/her to adjust the EQ settings for that song. I don't believe that she/he is so granular yet.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 26, 2015, at 09:34, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: indeed? independent of each other? Meaning you cannot use Siri to do comparative tasks, or to support voiceover tasks and vice versa? I am asking because as others point out from time to time, there are ios applications that do not exist on the mac at all. Those applications can only be used then with voiceover in ios, which does not involve siri? thanks for educating me! Kare On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Siri is more like a Star Trek kind of computer thing whereby you can ask > him/her directions, questions both real and silly, place commands like "open > my Music app" etc. VoiceOver is audio announcements and modified gestures of > visible items on the screen so that a visually impaired user can hopefully > use the device in a similar fashion as a sighted user. They are actually > independent of each other although they use some common aspects of the iOS. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jul 25, 2015, at 14:42, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > may I ask the difference? > What does siri provide that voiceover does not on ios divices? > Thanks, > Karen > > > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > >> Hey Tim, just to correct you on something, if you're talking about the >> enhanced quality for the Siri voices, you can't download those with the >> steps you listed below. Those voices can only be downloaded by plugging into >> a power source and if you're connected to Wifi. If you're talking about the >> regular Voiceover voices, then yes, the steps below will work. It would be >> helpful to both of us if the poster who was wondering about the voices could >> tell us if she wanted the enhanced Voiceover voices or the enhanced Siri >> voices. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk >> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs >> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper >> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com >> >>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> To download the enhanced version of voices, go to Settings, General, >>> Accessibility, VoiceOver, Speech then double-tap on the Default Voice. In >>> this screen you can download the enhanced version and/or add new voices. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Jul 20, 2015, at 07:54, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Oh really? Where do you go to do that? I didn't see that option, but >>> suppose I never really looked for it either sense I didn't really look >>> under the settings too much lol. >>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If you download the enhanced version of those voices, the quality improves >>>> dramatically. >>>> >>>> Later.... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jul 18, 2015, at 09:13, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I finally checked that out last night, and thought the British voice was >>>> ok, but was disappointed that most of the other voices weren't as >>>> high-quality sounding, the British voice being one of them. >>>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:07 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh yes, there is more than one man. >>>>> Here is hoping the ability to nuance comes in the next incarnation. >>>>> Kare >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2015, Jessica Moss wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There's more than 1 male voice now? I had now idea; will have to check >>>>>> that out. >>>>>> I love the American voice but would like to see what else is available >>>>>> too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>> <caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Karen, >>>>>>> You can have a male Siri if you like, it’s in the choices under Siri in >>>>>>> settings. I have a nice Brit gentleman, for instance, instead of the >>>>>>> snotty American version! lol >>>>>>> hth, >>>>>>> Caitlyn(not Genner, btw! another lol) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Karen Lewellen >>>>>>>> <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> as to the first question, I understand she? had no idea she is a girl, >>>>>>>> has an amusing answer to questions like... what's zero divided by >>>>>>>> zero?" >>>>>>>> if no one has tried it, I will not spoil the fun. >>>>>>>> I understand too that she will correct anyone seeking physical >>>>>>>> information about Bruce Jenner. >>>>>>>> The other half of my question has to do with nuance. >>>>>>>> I recently visited an apple store to learn if the ios voices could be >>>>>>>> nuanced the way mac voices can. I was dismayed that while you can >>>>>>>> speed the voice up and slow it down, you cannot improve the over all >>>>>>>> quality..but I did not try Siri at all. >>>>>>>> I was working with an ipad, not a phone. >>>>>>>> so can she be improved? >>>>>>>> I may need to check her out, I tend to prefer a guy's voice talking in >>>>>>>> my ear even on my computer lol. >>>>>>>> Still it might be the difference between ever using an ios device as >>>>>>>> is the case now, and considering an iphone for non phone tasks. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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