I year yah.  For me though there's not much comparison between tom and  
Alex.  Tom is choppy.  All of those realspeak voices are.  He's also  
slow, and I mean really slow.  He's farely comfortable to listen to,  
but it's very hard to tell when he speaks the difference between d and  
t, b and p, and some other things.  I think they may have tried to  
make him sound a bit more hip than he needed to be.  Samantha isn't  
nice to hear at all.  To me she sounds like a heavy smoker and her  
inflection is just bad.  Given the choice between the two, I'd take  
tom any day.  I just think alex has way better pronounsiation,  
especially in sl.  I'm using ralf right now and thinking he doen't  
sound all that bad.

Best,

erik burggraaf
A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com

On 2009-11-04, at 7:32 PM, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hello, Oh i still know quite a few people that use the old hal voices
> in windows because others are just not fast enough, i myself just
> really hate them though. I have not used infovox in the past because
> in the past it had a Dutch voice which i absolutely did not like (this
> was before the current ones) it is still included in some dutch
> equipment. I just visited the ivox page today though and I like the
> new Flemish voice Jeroen (flemish and Dutch are not THAT different).
> I also visited the other site that nicolai gave me and I really liked
> one of their british female voices although in all honesty i do think
> ivox is better.
> I must really say though that Alex reminds me of TOm in windows just
> as mellow and relaxed, cool cat from the states. Alex is non-fatiguing
> and I can use him for a long timeI just love the british accent so if
> I can switch to that...
> Greetings, Anouk
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>
>>
>> The problem with orpheous as I remember, well there were a couple of
>> problems actually.  The compression was just ruthlessly bad, and  
>> there
>> was an insane amount of bass on them.  I'd never heard a synthesizer
>> so boomie.  I know some people who really liked them, and now maybe
>> they've improved since the days of hal 4.2 when I used it, but you're
>> right, they would leave a bad impression on any first time  
>> synthesizer
>> user.
>>
>> Did you try infovox?  I have Ryan on my phone and I think he's really
>> great, but the pronounciation was deplorable on leopard, and I just
>> didn't have the time to write a whole new phoneem dictionary so I
>> could figure out what my computer was saying.  I'd like to try it
>> again on sl though, since it's possible they've improved it.   
>> cepstril
>> has some pretty good voices too.  Not good enough to where I'd want  
>> to
>> pay for them, but still, far from terrible.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>
>> On 2009-11-04, at 2:23 PM, anouk radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Erik maybe this is because i did not use speechoften but non-
>>> human sounding voices really distract me. Once in a while when i was
>>> using windows my braille display gave out and I had to do a week  
>>> with
>>> just speech, naturally i still had to learn stuff for school but it
>>> just did not stick when only using speech as it does when i read it
>>> in
>>> braille and it is just etched in my brain. I have the seem with
>>> lectures though, if i dont make notes then i can as well not go. I
>>> dont have this problem with literature. I must note though that at
>>> the
>>> time I only had the horrible hal voices (orpheus) sure they were  
>>> fast
>>> but they gave me a splitting headache. The only voices that I liked
>>> in
>>> windows were tom and daniel (i think they are both realspeak or
>>> nextup
>>> whatever the difference is).
>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>> On Nov 4, 2009, at 6:06 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hum.  Voices are such a matter of preference, but personally I  
>>>> thing
>>>> realspeak is attrotious and I try to get my clients off of it as
>>>> soon
>>>> as I can.  Elloquence is pretty horrible too.  Dektalk is not bad
>>>> but
>>>> it's fallen a long way from the old hardware days.  Alex runs a
>>>> little
>>>> faster in sl than than he did in leopard, and so he's tollerable
>>>> now.
>>>> Fred's better.  I'm kind'a happy with espeak even though every one
>>>> else hates it.
>>>>
>>>> For me though it comes down to speed and stability, and as long as
>>>> it
>>>> pronounces things properly I don't really care if it doesn't sound
>>>> anything like a human voice.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> erik burggraaf
>>>> A+ certified technician and user support consultant.
>>>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>
>>>> On 2009-11-04, at 11:56 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello I got this question from another Dutch blind person who has
>>>>> the
>>>>> iphone. He is wondering why the realspeak voices are not also
>>>>> available for the mac like the accapella ones are sincethe
>>>>> operating
>>>>> system on the iphone is like os x? Anybody know if realspeak  
>>>>> voices
>>>>> will be available for the mac? Apparently realspeak claire is
>>>>> used a
>>>>> lot on dutch windows systems by blind people.
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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