Why do you want to remove the apps that came on the iPod? They don't  
take up that much space and what type of iPod are we talking about? If  
a Nano, I don't believe you can remove them and if a Touch, again,  
there is no simple process for removing them. If you have a Touch and  
you simply want to move a number of the included apps to another  
location so you can have your most used on the front page, you can do  
that. Now I haven't done it myself, but believe it can be done through  
iTunes, but apparently can also be done on the iPod itself.

On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:41 PM, linzy buhr wrote:

> i just sent an email about apps but the apps are the ones that came  
> with it and i want them off my ipod if anyone can help with that  
> that would be great. that question again is does anyone now how to  
> get the apps that came with the ipod off so i can make more room on  
> my ipod. thanks any help can be sent to angelbaby0...@gmail.com
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Michael Busboom <m...@busboom.at>  
> wrote:
>
> Hello Esther,
>
> Once again, you deliver!  I am extremely impressed and grateful to  
> you for
> your thorough response.
>
> This morning, I installed a mobile solution for the Internet on my  
> Mac and
> can't wait to sit outdoors at a café and work through your document.
>
> Thanks is hardly enough for such a wonderful response, but thanks  
> anyway.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> Sent: Tuesday, 06 October, 2009 21:42
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Cc: mac-acc...@tft-bbs.com
> Subject: TIP: How to use Help and Google Searching to learn about  
> your Mac
> [was Re: Latest article on using the Mac from the Braille Monitor]
>
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> "Option-Return" to download a file is indeed a Safari shortcut with a
> VoiceOver flavor.  This is going to sound like the argument made in
> Steve's article, but you can find lists of Safari shortcuts by using
> the "Help" menu on the Safari menu bar. I'll list a few different ways
> you can find this kind of information and then I'll comment on what I
> mean by the "VoiceOver flavor", which allows us (and other Mac users
> who take advantage of "full keyboard access") to save a "click" action
> by pressing return.
>
> Using your Help Menu
> • Navigate to an application's "Help" menu by pressing VO-M to move to
> the menu bar, then press "H" to move to "Help" and arrow down to the
> menu options.  In some cases (e.g., iTunes) you may find a list of
> keyboard shortcuts or a "What's New" entry (e.g., for Mail) in
> addition to the main help document.
> • Arrow down to "Safari Help" and press return
> • You'll be in the toolbar of the Help menu, which will allow you to
> type a search query, and also has buttons to let you move backwards
> and forwards and access other help menus on your system.  You can
> interact with the toolbar if you want to use these functions, or VO-
> Right arrow if you just want to the read through the Help information
> in the window after interacting there.
> • To search specifically for information about shortcuts, interact
> with your toolbar, then VO-Right arrow or tab to the search field.
> Tip: if you use tab you don't have to first interact with the toolbar,
> but you'll only hear currently active buttons, so if you're exploring
> the window and the toolbar for the first time, you might want to
> interact. (Actually, you can VO-Left arrow to reach this field
> immediately, since navigation in the tool bar wraps, but the first
> time I use applications or windows I explore what's there.  Apart from
> buttons to move you backwards and forwards, there's a "Home" button
> that when pressed with VO-Space will take you back to the main Help
> page for the app from wherever you've navigated to in the contents.
> More interesting is the fact that if you explore the context menu for
> this button with VO-Shift-M, you'll access a menu of all help menus
> installed on your system, including the ones provided by third party
> apps.  Pressing the "Menu" button with VO-Space accesses other
> functions like changing the font size, or the print menu to print the
> contents of the page in the window, so you can save the information as
> a PDF file, for example.  I also forgot that if you're a low vision
> user you can first VO-left or right or use tab to move to the zoom
> button on the toolbar and press it with VO-Space to expand the help
> window to the whole screen before you interact with the toolbar. Or,
> at any time, you can use item chooser menu to look for "button".)
> • Assuming you have navigated to the search field in the toolbar, type
> in "shortcuts" (without the quotation marks) and press return.
> • The results of your search will show up in the main help area.
> Interact to read and select the search results.  You'll find that your
> search for "shortcuts" has resulted in 6 help topics and 10 support
> articles from Apple's web pages that are listed in order of relevancy.
> I think that the first two items in each category answer you
> question.  Uhder "Help Topics" these are:
> 1. Full keyboard access shortcuts
> 2. Safari shortcuts
> and under "Support Articles" these are:
> 1. Safari: Common Shortcuts
> 2. Safari: Browser Window and Menu Shortcuts
>
> You can VO-Down arrow and press return to read any of these.  I
> typically use VO-Down arrow instead of VO-Right arrow here, because I
> don't need to hear the search "relevancy" announced, but that
> information can be useful if you're doing a difficult search and
> wondering which of a number of documents to try reading first.  You
> can press the "Delete" key to move back and reach the search results
> page, or you can move back to the toolbar to use more navigation
> options. Control-F5 is a useful (non-VoiceOver) Mac shortcut if you
> want to do this, since you don't have to interact with the toolbar.
> Also, there's a button for "Index" in the main help window, and once
> you move away from the home page for that application's help menu
> there is also a button for "Home".  You can press "Index" and look for
> "shortcuts".  The main differences in using the "Index" are that your
> results will appear in alphabetical rather than relevancy order and
> will be limited to the "Help" document.  Remember to interact with the
> HTML content in the help window.
>
> If you want to save this information, navigate to the toolbar  
> (Control-
> F5), tab to the menu button and press (VO-Space), press "P" to go the
> print option and return. VO-Right arrow, tab, or use item chooser menu
> to navigate to the "PDF Menu" button and press (VO-Space).  I usually
> arrow down to "Save as PDF", then fill in the file name I want to save
> as in the dialog window.  Then, if it's something I want to learn,
> I'll open the file (which comes up in Preview) and I'll create a
> Bookmark to the document (Command-D -- just like the shortcut for
> creating a bookmark in Safari) and type in a name in response to the
> dialog window.  The beauty of this method is that when you access the
> "Bookmarks" menu on Preview's menu bar and find your bookmark, your
> PDF document will automatically be opened up in Preview at whatever
> page you bookmarked -- you don't even have to know where you saved the
> document or what it's name was, or how to navigate to it.  It's a
> great way to learn things that are in the VoiceOver Getting Started
> Guides.  For example, I bookmarked the section on NumPad Commander in
> the Leopard guide, because I don't usually use this since I have a
> laptop keyboard, but wanted to learn this with an attached numeric
> keypad -- and incidentally, do you know that you can use a free
> NumberKey Free app on the iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch to run NumPad
> Commander for a laptop?  The only issue about bookmarking in Preview
> is that the bookmarks don't support folder structure, but are listed
> alphabetically, so if you want to group them by document, as one guy
> who was learning about Logic Pro wanted to do, I'd add a prefix like
> "Logic:" or "LP:" to the beginning of the name.
>
> Using Google Searches:
> Nowadays, I usually do a Google search to find information on
> shortcuts.  If I want to find the Apple Support documents I'll go to
> the Google toolbar on Safari using Command-Option-F (the first of the
> listed Safari Shortcuts in one of the Help results), type in "support
> Safari shortcuts" and press return. The first result is the Apple
> Support Document, "Safari: Common Shortcuts", that showed up under my
> Help window search. I use Command-L to highlight the address location,
> Command-C to copy it, and then Command-Tab to switch back to this mail
> window, where I can paste in the URL with Command-V:
>
> * Safari: Common Shortcuts
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42950
>
> • Safari: Browser Window and Menu Shortcuts
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42951
>
> (Actually, the Google result order changed between yesterday and
> today, but both documents were easy to find).
>
> The reason I now prefer Google searches is that you can sometimes find
> undocumented shortcuts or sources of information that someone has
> reported.  The great thing about this method is that you're drawing on
> a hugely larger knowledge base and can directly apply it to working
> with your Mac and VoiceOver.
>
> For example, in doing this search, I came across an article that
> pointed out that there's a great source of Safari shortcuts
> information under the Safari application resources folder, and you can
> access it if you point your browser to:
>
> file:///Applications/Safari.app/Contents/Resources/Shortcuts.html
>
> (If you want to find this via Finder, use Comand-Shift A to go to the
> Applications folder, press "S" to go to Safari, interact and bring up
> the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M).  Then choose "Show package contents"
> to display the "Contents" folder for the app.  You can expand the
> folder with VO-Backslash and navigate down to the "Resources" folder
> to find the "Shortcuts.html" file.  I think that summary may be even
> better than the other results pages).
>
> OK, to conclude, since this has gotten to be a bit longwinded.  If you
> look under the browser shortcuts in this last resource, or under the
> Safari: Browser Window and Menu Shortcuts support document, you'll see
> that "Option-click a link" causes a file to download.  But if you read
> the "Full Keyboard Access Shortcuts" information under help, you'll
> realize that VoiceOver automatically highlights a link when you
> navigate to it.  So you don't need to route your mouse cursor here or
> "click" with your trackpad or mouse to activate the link and the
> download command -- you just need to press return to execute the
> command. That's what I meant by the "VoiceOver flavor".  It's not
> specific to VoiceOver users, but it's a selection option that's
> automatically built into our system.
>
> Similarly, if you had opened a link to start playing an mp3 file or
> start displaying a PDF file and you realize that you wanted to
> download instead (maybe because the file is larger than expected or
> you didn't know that the link would activate a download), you can
> navigate to the link location in the address bar with Command-L, and
> press Option-Return to download the file instead.  That works for
> everybody (not just VoiceOver users, I think), because Command-L
> highlights the current address location and pressing return after
> pressing the Option key activates the highlighted link.
>
> HTH.  P.S. These explanations take far longer to type than it takes to
> run the actual searches with all the built-in Mac shortcut keys.  As a
> second tip, periodically look through the options listed under the
> menus on your Application menu bar.  The ones that have shortcut keys
> may be worth exploring, because that indicates that some people use
> that often enough to warrant assigning a system shortcut.  That's a
> great way to learn about new features you didn't even know you
> wanted.  That's the way I found out about "Command-Shift-Y" in mail to
> add the sender of the current mail message to my address book.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther.
>
>
> Michael Busboom wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Esther,
> >
> > Although I read the Braille Monitor article, I learned something new
> > by
> > reading your posting anyway.
> >
> > You wrote:
> > "You can alternatively go to the table of contents for the latest
> > Braille Monitor at:
> >
> > http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0909/bm0909tc.htm
> >
> > Then use item chooser menu to look for "A Second Look at Apple's
> > VoiceOver", VO-RIght arrow to the "Listen Now" link, and press  
> Option-
> > Return to download the mp3 file."
> >
> > Where does one learn about commands such as the Option-Return?  To  
> my
> > knowledge, this is not a VO command, so I am assuming it is a Safari
> > command.;  Is there a list of Safari keyboard commands that can
> > easily be
> > downloaded?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
> > Sent: Sunday, 04 October, 2009 00:11
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Latest article on using the Mac from the Braille  
> Monitor
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Rich, for posting this link to the Braille Monitor.  For  
> those
> > of you who have not yet read the article, The Braille Monitor   
> invited
> > a commentary on the original article from a Mac user (who is a  
> member
> > of this list, and who some of you may recognize as the host of the
> > ATMaine access technology podcasts and from his appearances on the
> > Mac-
> > cessibility and Screenless Switcher podcasts).  It's well written,  
> and
> > you can also download the mp3 version of the article.
> >
> > The direct link to the mp3 file, which may be too long to use from
> > mail, is:
> >
> >
> https://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Audio/Braille_Monitor/2009/October/07_A_Secon
> > d_Look_At_Apples_Voiceover.mp3
> >
> > You can alternatively go to the table of contents for the latest
> > Braille Monitor at:
> >
> > http://www.nfb.org/images/nfb/Publications/bm/bm09/bm0909/bm0909tc.htm
> >
> > Then use item chooser menu to look for "A Second Look at Apple's
> > VoiceOver", VO-RIght arrow to the "Listen Now" link, and press  
> Option-
> > Return to download the mp3 file.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Esther
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> sweet heart linzy
>
> >


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