Ray, I personally find group mode to be very very clunky. Yes, you have to do more Vo-ing around the screen with DOM, I'll give you that, but the thing is, with group navigation, though it might be more reliable at times, I'll even go so far as to grant you that, even though truthfully, I'd rather not, it slows me down tremendously, as then I have to sit here and listen to Voiceover read sometimes a whole group cluster to determine if what I need is barried within that group. So, let's say that the item I need is about the fifth or sixth item down in a group. I have to sit here and listen to the first 4 or 5 things just to know that the 6th item down is what I need. OK, once I become more familiar with the web site, then group mode might make sense, but definitely! definitely! definitely! not if I've never seen the web site before a day in my life.
Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:00 AM Subject: Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted No question. group is a much more intuitive way to navigate than dom, taking full advantage of the mac system of navigation as it does. I would use it all the time except that no matter how many upgrades come down the pipe, group mode is consistently very slow. It pauses my browsing with busy busy busy messages and takes longer to load large webpages. If it were resource efficient on my machine I would use it but for now it's dom mode. Best, Erik Burggraaf June is amazon gift card mania month at inclusive android. For details on how to enter for your chance to win a $25 gift card, please visit: http://www.inclusiveandroid.com/?q=content/play-amazon-giftcard-mania-sweepstakes On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: Hi there. Subject line pretty much says it all. Due to a problem that Chris was having about a week ago reporting issues with beta software he is testing, Somebody here suggested group navigation rather then DOM navigation. I manage a google group myself, and, I was wondering why I couldn't edit or clear the group welcome message. When I swwitched to group mode, however, I found that I could in fact do so. While in DOM, though, this is not possible. However, having stayed in group navigation for a while now, I find that much more interaction is needed and it's a little harder to tell what is where. Takes a little more time, it seems to me, to navigate in group mode rather than DOM. So, for those of y'all who choose to navigate in group mode, any tips I my try to help make it faster, or, would DOM be just better in most cases? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.