I like Eloquence well enough, but I would not want it on my mac or iPhone, ever I don’t think.
For me, Eloquence is windows, Alex is Mac. Since I do boot into a virtual machine for mudding and the like, I enjoy having my 2 environments with different voices. DFTBA! John D. Lipsey mail: johnl1...@gmail.com Twitter: @J_TGL > On Jun 11, 2015, at 23:38, Sadam Ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Like others on list I've played around with the solution that brings the > Eloquence TTS to the Mac. > > As pointed out it's horribly unstable. > > If Apple can figure out a way of incorporating Eloquence in the next version > of OS X I'd certainly be interested. > > Alex has a very hard time announcing some names in Arabic and Somali my > native languages. > > Hope the Siri voices available in iOS 9 make it into VoiceOver. > > To be honest a lot of those voices need to go. > > Not a lot has changed in terms of TTS since I got the Mac way back in 2010. > > Sadam Ahmed > > On 6/12/2015 6:32 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I agree with Shawn. I've not been a fan of Eloquence ever primarily due to >> how it sounds. But, to each their own. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Jun 11, 2015, at 14:11, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi. The thing I have against Eloquence and even ESpeak is because they are >> too robotic sounding. Actually, one of the reasons why I moved to the Mac >> back in 2010 is because of Alex. When a friend of mine showed me how he took >> breaths when he reads and when watching Youtube videos with him on them, I >> was impressed with the way he sounded. Bottom line is, I moved to the Mac to >> get away from all robotic voices. Now I'm using Sharon from Acapela who I >> think is the best US English voice they made. In my opinion, like it or not, >> human natural voices are the future for us so I don't think Eloquence or >> eSpeak will ever come on to the Mac, especially if what that other poster >> said is true that Eloquence is discontinued. >> >> Shawn >> Sent from my White MacBook >> >> >> >>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan, >>> >>> I totally totally agree with you! If we could get Eloquence on the mac, >>> that would probably be the happiest day of my life! I am one of those who >>> falls into the category you mentioned regarding Alex. I can use him, but I >>> have to keep it at the default speaking rate, and even then, with my >>> hearing loss, I have to pay fairly close attention. Especially if I'm >>> reading say, an entire paragraph or whatever in one chunk. Again, I can do >>> it, but it's not easy. >>> >>> I don't honestly know what so many people have against Eloquence. Even the >>> Vocalizer voices I can't seem to really understand terribly well. I can do >>> it, as I said, but not easily. I can't ramp Eloquence up very fast, but I >>> definitely have it slightly faster than the default both on my JAWS and my >>> Window-eyes. >>> >>> I know that Eloquence is also available for NVDA, but not legally, so there >>> went that idea. >>> >>> I know there is a port for Eloquence done by Tylor Spivy of Eloquence that >>> works on the mac, but it's a bit tricky to get it working, and is >>> incredibly incredibly unstable. I used it just long enough to see if it >>> really actually worked, but obviously took it off, 1, when I saw how >>> unstable it was, and 2, due to the fact it's also illegal. Even had it >>> worked flawlessly, I couldn't have kept it in good concience. >>> >>> I agree though, if there was a way to buy a mac ported stable mind you, >>> license for Eloquence, for OSX, I'd do it faster than a blink of an eye! >>> Darn straight I would! It's really about the only synth I can not only >>> understand, but comfortably can listen to on and on for hours at a time. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Kevin Cussick' via MacVisionaries" >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 2:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: time for Apple to get a new default voice >>> >>> >>> Well I use Fiona Compact and have it as fast as I can and love it. but >>> each to there own. >>> >>> On 10/06/2015 20:16, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> Hi Christopher. I think it depends on the hearing loss. I've worked with >>>> people for example with a hearing loss who find Alex unintelligible once >>>> you go a little above the default rate, but who can have compact Daniel >>>> cranked up remarkably fast. >>>> Personally I'd be delighted to have Eloquence on my Mac because Alex >>>> mispronounces far too much for my liking. The moral of the story is the >>>> more choice of TTS a screen reader company can offer, the better. Speech >>>> is extremely subjective. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 11/06/2015, at 6:28 am, christopher hallsworth >>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Might be coming next year <grin>. Seriously though, I don't ever want >>>>> Apple to remove Alex. He's fantastic for someone with moderately severe >>>>> to profound hearing loss which I have. The other voices included are >>>>> fine, but doesn't cut it like Alex. >>>>>> On 10 Jun 2015, at 18:46, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ray. I don't really want Apple to get rid of Alex. I lve the fact >>>>>> that he takes breaths and everything. I am with you on one thing though, >>>>>> I hope Apple considers making the Siri voices available in El Capitan. >>>>>> After all, you can get them for NVDA in Windows so why can't it be done >>>>>> on the Mac? >>>>>> >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> Sent from my White MacBook >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject line pretty much says it all. Nothing against Alex mind you: >>>>>>> but, frankly, I reckon it's high time Apple adopted a new and much more >>>>>>> updated default voice. The new Siri male US English voice might >>>>>>> perhaps be a good choice. Here's hoping we see this one in Elcapitan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, >>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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