Hi all

Not a lot know this I don't think, but it is possible to navigate the Mac 
similar to Windows. For example, there is something in the keyboard pain of 
System Preferences that allows one to tab and shift-tab between controls. Also, 
VoiceOver can automatically interact with tables, lists and other controls when 
the tab or shift-tab key is pressed. This can be found in the navigation 
category of the VoiceOver Utility. Finally, Safari allows you to navigate 
between elements with tab and shift-tab as well. This can be found in the 
advanced pain of Safari's preferences.


> On 6 Jun 2015, at 20:39, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate 
> between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and 
> SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in 
> classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane in 
> System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full keyboard 
> access.
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey <johnl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi list:
> 
> I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite.  However, 
> the strangest thing is stopping me.  I've observed it on 3 machines at 
> various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing.
> 
> Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I 
> prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout.
> 
> In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a 
> couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop 
> interacting with the messages column.  However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 or 
> so items to the right.  Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but 
> voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the 
> mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left.
> 
> This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from 
> upgrading.  Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior?  I can 
> probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to 
> jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for 
> me personally.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any insights into this.
> 
> DFTBA!
> 
> John D. Lipsey
> 
> mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
> 
> Twitter: @J_TGL
> 
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