Hi all Not a lot know this I don't think, but it is possible to navigate the Mac similar to Windows. For example, there is something in the keyboard pain of System Preferences that allows one to tab and shift-tab between controls. Also, VoiceOver can automatically interact with tables, lists and other controls when the tab or shift-tab key is pressed. This can be found in the navigation category of the VoiceOver Utility. Finally, Safari allows you to navigate between elements with tab and shift-tab as well. This can be found in the advanced pain of Safari's preferences.
> On 6 Jun 2015, at 20:39, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to navigate > between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply use TAB and > SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite when in > classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard pane in > System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full keyboard > access. > > Grant > > On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey <johnl1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi list: > > I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite. However, > the strangest thing is stopping me. I've observed it on 3 machines at > various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing. > > Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I > prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout. > > In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a > couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop > interacting with the messages column. However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 or > so items to the right. Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but > voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the > mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left. > > This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from > upgrading. Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior? I can > probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to > jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for > me personally. > > Thanks in advance for any insights into this. > > DFTBA! > > John D. Lipsey > > mail: johnl1...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @J_TGL > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.