That was what the discussion I reme,bered was about. When I was awayt from the Mac for a short time earlier, it happened again but I could not run down what it was from. I checked a ocuple apps I had installed and updated yesterday and they were current.

I did another restart and have not seen another phantom window but I agree, that is not the answer. Yet until I find a better way, it will have to do. So I will try to keep track of what is going on and try to make a connection.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 6/5/2015 11:59 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,

These usually happen because of third party updaters like Adobe or Google.  I 
just happened to receive a announcement this morning and this update was from 
Google Updater.  Using VO-f1-f1, then arrowed down to the Google Updater item, 
right and down to Go to Google Updater.  I was able to apply the update and all 
was well.

When you restart, all you’re doing is avoiding the inevitable.  The message 
will go away, but only temporarily.  Once those background updater apps do 
their next poll, and figure out that there is an update available, the pesky 
message will re-appear.

I only know of three ways to locate then, the Window Chooser, the App Chooser 
and cmd-tab.  I guess you could go into the Activity Monitor and stop the 
process, but that is no better than a restart, as next time the computer is 
restarted, you will get the update notification.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:19, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

   Same end result. With VO F2 F2 I hear Window and when I enter on it, window 
window. VO F1 F1 get sme system dialog and again, I get window window.

 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 6/5/2015 9:18 AM, Matthew Dierckens wrote:
what about VO F2 twice to get to the window chooser menu?

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:15, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

   Window window. That is all I hear.

 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 6/5/2015 9:12 AM, Matthew Dierckens wrote:
Hi Believer.
If you res VO F1 twice quickly, press down arrow until you hear system dialogs, 
press right arrow and see what the dialog is.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:00, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

   Think this had been discussed recently but as usual, I paid little attention 
because I did not experience this issue.

   Now I am. Running Yosemite latest. Not sure why it happens. When I find one 
of these, and try to close it, it does not close. A restart helps. What was the 
solution other than a restart, fi there was one? And does anyone know the 
cause? Thanks.

 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.




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