HI HiHi Myrna, Ohto to to You were so lucky to have a chance to try the VO feature. I went to the store a day after they were released. I didn't purchase yet, but was very tempted as a early birthday gift to myself. It's a big one this year, so I thought I would do it in grand style. I decided to wait for some feedback from other blind folks on how well accessibility works before placing an order. Well!!! Now I will need to wait until the summertime when they'll be more available. Anyways, I hope you make the right choice for yourself, "To Buy Or Not To Buy..."
Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Myrna Votta <myrnavo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City. I > really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, > because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to > be able to experience Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that > the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could > try Voiceover. She had her colleague look for it and it was found. > Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the > screen. I also had siri open the settings app for me. The watch was the > 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most > of the talking watches all of us have used. The atmosphere in the store, as > in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult > to hear. However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. > I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than > the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger. The sales woman said > that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch. I did > try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the > leather loop band. Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the > leather loop, I didn’t I did, however, like the melanise band because it > felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light. I loved the design of the > watch and the feel of the glass. Now, For me “to order or not to order, > that is the question." > > > Myrna > >> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch. I'm going >> to try it when I get mine. >> >> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the >> Safire Diamond. >> >> Kawal. >> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport >> model; so I have both sizes on order. But I want to cancel one. >> >> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel. >> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life. >> >> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need >> to do on the watch. If having to actually type on the watch, it may >> be better to have the 42mm. >> >> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size? >> >> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications. It will be >> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to >> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc. >> >> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually >> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take >> your iPhone out. >> >> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft >> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly >> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information. >> >> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in >> the background if its kept at a low volume. I use ear buds on the >> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the >> iPhone. Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are >> in an important meeting. >> >> One commentary I read really made sense. It said that the Apple watch >> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly >> handling notifications. It will make it easier to process these >> notifications. I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10 >> or 20 pending notifications. >> >> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown. You can use it to >> scroll through different functions and applications. >> >> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay. >> >> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side >> of the watch. >> >> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in >> the store. David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using >> VoiceOver. >> >> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it >> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit. >> >> Best, >> Mika >> @pyyhkala >> >> >> >> >>> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote: >>> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our >>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches. >>> >>> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band >>> types and the two watch sizes. There are demo watches kept in a drawer >>> built into the table. There is a trick way of opening the drawer. >>> >>> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands. >>> >>> Leather bands. The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather >>> bands. I have owned high end leather goods. The sides and surfaces are >>> finished in much the same ways. I have done leather and harness >>> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands >>> feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather. >>> >>> One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands. I >>> personally would choose a different band style because I never liked >>> that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I >>> could tell by handling the demo items. >>> >>> The sport band is very sport ready. It feels very smooth, sort of a >>> cross between rubber and metal. A wearer could sweat up a storm and the >>> band would remain impervious. Sorry, can't recall its color >>> >>> There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure. >>> This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my >>> wrist around my head or anything exciting like that. This band is >>> silver in color. I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against >>> my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it. I am not >>> over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an >>> Apple provided band. >>> >>> I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad, >>> even broader than the larger Apple watch. The Apple watches would look >>> great on those. This type of watch in a slightly different >>> configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch. >>> Don't sneer. I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille >>> watches about the same size. >>> >>> I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the >>> customers. Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are >>> hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me. >>> >>> The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker >>> than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There >>> are two buttons on one of the sides without the band connectors. The >>> round button is the one that acts as the Home Button. I forget what the >>> rectangular button does. These buttons are eminently tactile. There is >>> no mistaking there shapes if you have finger sensitivity. >>> >>> The price did set me back a bit. By the time I save for the watch, the >>> next generation will be ready for roll-out. I wonder what a creative >>> jeweler could do with a band for that kind of watch; or what could be >>> made for one of the tiny Apple devices, like a Nano? Interesting >>> possibilities. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 18-Apr-15 07:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>>> You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly >>>>> tedious. I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too. I would >>>>> only advise getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've >>>>>> subsequently hit the cancel button. >>>>>> >>>>>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the >>>>>> things I'd use the Watch for anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through >>>>>> my email on said Watch like I can on the phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to >>>>>> be not worth it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed >>>>>> >>>>>> B.A. Business Information Systems >>>>>> >>>>>> RMIT University >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>>>>>> It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am >>>>>>> going for an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so >>>>>>> I will have the perfect occasion to really test it out against my >>>>>>> initial opinion. If it really doesn't fit my needs, I can always >>>>>>> send it back via the local apple store. it really bogs down to >>>>>>> battery life for me. But I'm sure next generations will get much >>>>>>> better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to >>>>>>>> the 14 days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it >>>>>>>> as others have said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within >>>>>>>> easy reach and earpods around my neck. I don't like the way the >>>>>>>> blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO and just don't see >>>>>>>> how having something on my wrist is really going to make that much >>>>>>>> difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do >>>>>>>> understand it though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided >>>>>>>> to take a look at the Apple watch. I was very interested in it, >>>>>>>> but not sure what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've >>>>>>>> seen. It was hard to tell much because they weren't able to demo >>>>>>>> voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and thought the stuff I >>>>>>>> was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool. Since I have >>>>>>>> fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go >>>>>>>> ahead and pre-order one. I just got the aluminum sports model, >>>>>>>> because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when >>>>>>>> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in >>>>>>>> shelling out the extra $200. 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