HI   
HiHi Myrna,

Ohto to to You were so lucky to have a chance to try the VO feature. I went to 
the store a day after they were released. I didn't purchase yet, but was very 
tempted as a early birthday gift to myself. It's a big one this year, so I 
thought I would do it in grand style. I decided to wait for some feedback from 
other blind folks on how well accessibility works before placing an order. 
Well!!! Now I will need to wait until the summertime when they'll be more 
available. Anyways, I hope you make the right choice for yourself, "To Buy Or 
Not To Buy..." 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 23, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Myrna Votta <myrnavo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Today, I visited the Apple Store on West 14th Street, in New York City.  I 
> really don’t know why I was so lucky, perhaps just picked the right store, 
> because when I told the sales person there that I knew that I wasn’t going to 
> be able to experience  Voiceover, she said that she was almost positive that 
> the store did have one accessible Apple watch so that blind visitors could 
> try Voiceover.  She had her colleague look for it and it was found.  
> Therefore, I had the opportunity to play with Voiceover and interact with the 
> screen.  I also had siri open the settings app for me.  The watch was the 
> 42mm sports model and I would say that the speaker sound level was like most 
> of the talking watches all of us have used.   The atmosphere in the store, as 
> in most of the Apple stores, of course, was noisy, so it was a bit difficult 
> to hear.  However, in a less noisy environment, I think that it will be fine. 
>  I did have the chance to try the 38mm model, which I liked even better than 
> the larger watch, which really isn’t that much larger.  The sales woman said 
> that she liked the look of it on my wrist better than the 42mm watch.  I did 
> try the band that comes with the sports model, the melanise band and the 
> leather loop band.  Although the sales woman and my friend really liked the 
> leather loop, I didn’t  I did, however, like the melanise band because it 
> felt like a mesh bracelet and it was very light.  I loved the design of the 
> watch and the feel of the glass.  Now, For me  “to order or not to order, 
> that is the question."
> 
> 
> Myrna
> 
>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know if a Braille display will work with the watch.  I'm going 
>> to try it when I get mine.
>> 
>> I thought the 42 Millimetre was heavy because of the stainless steal and the 
>> Safire Diamond.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 22 Apr 2015, at 14:56, Mika Pyyhkala <pyyhk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am still struggling with whether to get the 38mm or 42mm sport
>> model; so I have both sizes on order.  But I want to cancel one.
>> 
>> I tried both sizes on and didn't notice a huge difference in feel.
>> Some have said the 42mm will have slightly better battery life.
>> 
>> I think it depends on what kinds of gestures and input one will need
>> to do on the watch.  If having to actually type on the watch, it may
>> be better to have the 42mm.
>> 
>> Anyone have ideas on pros and cons of the 38mm or 42mm size?
>> 
>> I think the watch will be helpful for notifications.  It will be
>> easier to access the notifications on your rist rather than having to
>> take the iPhone out of your pocket, etc.
>> 
>> I also think pass book and boarding passes and hotel keys eventually
>> will be a cool function of the watch so again as not to have to take
>> your iPhone out.
>> 
>> It will also be handy to keep track of the ETA of an Uber or Lyft
>> without again having to take my iPhone out of my pocket or constantly
>> be holding on to my iPhone in order to check on the ETA information.
>> 
>> I've never been extraordinarily concerned about VoiceOver talking in
>> the background if its kept at a low volume.  I use ear buds on the
>> plane, but otherwise usually just use the built in speaker to the
>> iPhone.  Perhaps there will be a way to mute the watch say if you are
>> in an important meeting.
>> 
>> One commentary I read really made sense.  It said that the Apple watch
>> is good for someone who is constantly on their iPhone, and constantly
>> handling notifications.  It will make it easier to process these
>> notifications.  I often find that when I take my iPhone out, I have 10
>> or 20 pending notifications.
>> 
>> The round knob on the watch is the digital crown.  You can use it to
>> scroll through different functions and applications.
>> 
>> The square button will bring up contacts and also bring up Apple pay.
>> 
>> Both the digital crown (knob) and square button are on the same side
>> of the watch.
>> 
>> I also saw the abbreviated demo where you couldn't really do much in
>> the store.  David Woodbridge also posted a positive review using
>> VoiceOver.
>> 
>> I also look forward to the heart beat monitoring, and like that it
>> will be in one device rather than also say having to get a Fitbit.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mika
>> @pyyhkala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4/19/15, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> With all that has been posted and written, I finally stopped by our
>>> city's Apple store to check out the two sizes of Apple watches.
>>> 
>>> The Apple store has installed a table for displaying the various band
>>> types and the two watch sizes.  There are demo watches kept in a drawer
>>> built into the table.  There is a trick way of opening the drawer.
>>> 
>>> Some people wrote about various elements of the watch and bands.
>>> 
>>> Leather bands.  The bands I saw looked exactly like high end leather
>>> bands.  I have owned high end leather goods.  The sides and surfaces are
>>> finished in much the same ways.  I have done leather and harness
>>> crafting and know the rudiments, so, I don't feel that the leather bands
>>> feel like composite materials or slurry made to seem like leather.
>>> 
>>> One type of metal band looks a lot like those expandable watch bands.  I
>>> personally would choose a different band style because I never liked
>>> that type of band, but the workmanship is solid and good, as far as I
>>> could tell by handling the demo items.
>>> 
>>> The sport band is very sport ready.  It feels very smooth, sort of a
>>> cross between rubber and metal.  A wearer could sweat up a storm and the
>>> band would remain impervious.  Sorry, can't recall its color
>>> 
>>> There is a mesh type metal band that affixes via a magnetic closure.
>>> This closure seemed to hold fast, although I did not attempt to whirl my
>>> wrist around my head or anything exciting like that. This band is
>>> silver in color.  I found that the back of the smaller watch fit against
>>> my skin well without noticeable gaps between me and it.  I am not
>>> over-nourished and feel that this band would be my first choice for an
>>> Apple provided band.
>>> 
>>> I remember tooled leather bands made in the hippie mode that were broad,
>>> even broader than the larger Apple watch.  The Apple watches would look
>>> great on those.  This type of watch in a slightly different
>>> configuration would work really well as a pocket or necklace watch.
>>> Don't sneer.  I have two mechanical, etched metal necklace Braille
>>> watches about the same size.
>>> 
>>> I did not demo the watch, as the store was noisy with all the
>>> customers.  Our city;s Apple store is always busy and even iphones are
>>> hard enough to hear that earphones should be used, at least by me.
>>> 
>>> The watch itself is sort of squared off around its edges and thicker
>>> than a sighted watch, but would not be bad for a Braille watch. There
>>> are two buttons on one of the sides without the band connectors.  The
>>> round button is the one that acts as the Home Button.  I forget what the
>>> rectangular button does.  These buttons are eminently tactile.  There is
>>> no mistaking there shapes if you have finger sensitivity.
>>> 
>>> The price did set me back a bit.  By the time I save for the watch, the
>>> next generation will be ready for roll-out.  I wonder what a creative
>>> jeweler could do with a band for that kind of watch; or what could be
>>> made for one of the tiny Apple devices, like a Nano? Interesting
>>> possibilities.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cheree Heppe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 18-Apr-15 07:39 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote:
>>>> You can't actually reply to email on the Apple Watch, only read it.
>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 10:35 am, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com
>>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It does seem like using the watch to do email would be incredibly
>>>>> tedious.  I still seem myself doing that from my phone, too.  I would
>>>>> only advise getting the watch if you want to do the health tracking.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Sadam Ahmed <sadamahmed1...@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Interesting. After ordering mine on the first day I've
>>>>>> subsequently hit the cancel button.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I came to the conclusion that my iPhone can already do most of the
>>>>>> things I'd use the Watch for anyway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also me being a productivity nut I can't see myself powering through
>>>>>> my email on said Watch  like I can on the phone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe I'll get the second generation but at this point it appears to
>>>>>> be not worth it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Most first gen Apple products come with a quirk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sadam Mohammed Ahmed
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> B.A. Business Information Systems
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RMIT University
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/19/2015 7:32 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>>>>> It is a good thing. My order is due to ship around july and I am
>>>>>>> going for an advanced mobility course with some other uni mates so
>>>>>>> I will have the perfect occasion to really test it out against my
>>>>>>> initial opinion. If it really doesn't fit my needs, I can always
>>>>>>> send it back via the local apple store. it really bogs down to
>>>>>>> battery life for me. But I'm sure next generations will get much
>>>>>>> better, especially with the upcoming leaps in battery life.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 19/04/2015, at 6:32 am, gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:geoffsli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I guess this is a very wise way to look at things with regard to
>>>>>>>> the 14 days. I just can't see myself getting too much use from it
>>>>>>>> as others have said. I keep my phone in my shirt pocket within
>>>>>>>> easy reach and earpods around my neck. I don't like the way the
>>>>>>>> blue tooth headsets I have tried work with VO and just don't see
>>>>>>>> how having something on my wrist is really going to make that much
>>>>>>>> difference. Maybe I'm off track on this. For visual users I do
>>>>>>>> understand it though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided
>>>>>>>> to take a look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it,
>>>>>>>> but not sure what I would think, based on the mixed reviews I've
>>>>>>>> seen.  It was hard to tell much because they weren't able to demo
>>>>>>>> voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and thought the stuff I
>>>>>>>> was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I have
>>>>>>>> fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go
>>>>>>>> ahead and pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model,
>>>>>>>> because I figure it's highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when
>>>>>>>> newer generations are released, so didn't see the sense in
>>>>>>>> shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to its arrival and
>>>>>>>> getting to actually put it through its paces.
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Donna
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