That’s a good point. it’s an interesting proposition, but I’d rather find someone around me who has one on which I can test it out than pre order, find out its not good for my needs and go through the process of sending it back.
I might change my mind in a month or two but there will be other purchases I most probably am looking forward to in the meantime. Cheers, Yuma Antoine Decaux "Light has no value without darkness" Mob: +61 410732547 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > On 14/04/2015, at 12:16 am, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You make a lot of valid points but you are forgetting about the 14 day no > questions asked return policy. I’ve preordered mine but plan to make use of > the return policy if I feel the watch doesn’t suit my needs. It’s simple, get > the watch and try it out for yourself and just return it if you don’t like it. > > > > Best regards, > > Rick Alfaro > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yuma Antoine Decaux > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:55 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: glad I didn't pre order > > i read your comments and placed everything on 1st generation. Wasn’t that my > point altogether from the start? As in “people, please do consider this as it > is a 1st gen device and you will be the test subject for apple to improve > it.”. When you think of it this way, so you would accept all of these issues > and go ahead still with the purchase? It’s like a fridge company that will > tell you it has a tech that can alert you when your milk is low, but please > hang on as it’s buggy. We will charge you 3000 dollars for the fridge, but > hang on, the features we’ve introduced but don’t work very well right now > will be fixed at some point? Isn’t this how android is? And isn’t this > exactly what The CEO used as example to lambast android phones? > > If you take it one step further, a standard customer is invited to check a > dead box with a demo running on loop, then invite you to pre order the watch. > it’s only when you get it that you can have an intelligent estimation of the > thing. As if I was going to buy a game console with all sorts of stuff being > promoted on it, I go to Nintendo or microsoft, and they have a box there with > some videos running out of its dvd, but I can’t do anything with it to test > whether I want to buy it. But touching it is giving my fingers an orgasm. So > due to my fingers loving the touch, I’ll buy it. Isn’t that coaxing? Gentle > cohertion to be more precise. or even if I read about this crazy new > furniture that makes me build muscles even as I sit on it working on a > computer. I get the usual “this is the most ergonomic chair in the world”, > “it’s fibro elaster polymer set to precision of nanometers for the double > stitching is done with premium grade graphine nanotuves” etc etc, then I go > to the furniture shop, and they have a dummy demo that I can’t sit on because > it’s not done, but I can pre order it for a price that is double from the > rest, but trust us, we’re banana republic and our history of office chairs > precedes us. > > Anyway, I’m here for the discussion, hopefully no one takes offence from my > words, I’m very sarcastic and stuff but this is my nature, and it has no > malevolent intention. Just sincere as an old school tech geek who loves his > gadgets and who also loves seeing the potentials. > > Cheers, > > > > Yuma Antoine Decaux > > "Light has no value without darkness" > Mob: +61 410732547 > Skype: Shainobi1 > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 <http://www.twitter.com/triple7> > > > > > >> On 13/04/2015, at 11:54 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com >> <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> >> See below for comments. I've tried to be as fair as I can be, but it seems >> like you are determined to hate this device and won't consider it in any way >> useful. I saw no positive comments in the quotes you used, for instance. >> Anyway, here goes… >>> On Apr 12, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Here’s a list of quips about the watch. I’ll wait for next year’s version >>> instead of jumping on the thread with just touching the thing without even >>> testing its functionalities. >>> >>> content list 10 items • Topolsky says that the Watch too often interrupts >>> him with notifications while he’s trying to do other things. “I’m in a >>> meeting with 14 people, in mid-sentence, when I feel a tap-tap-tap on my >>> wrist… A version of this happens dozens of times throughout the day — for >>> messages, emails, activity achievements, tweets, and so much more. Wait a >>> second. Isn’t the promise of the Apple Watch to help me stay in the moment, >>> focused on the people around me and undisturbed by the mesmerising void of >>> my iPhone? So why do I suddenly feel so distracted?” >> I have to wonder if he took the time to set it up. You are meant to decide >> which notifications make it to your Watch, not just leave *everything* >> enabled. How often do you disallow notifications from an app on your phone? >> Same thing here; you tailor notifications to fit what you want to know about >> "now". >> >> >>> • Patel says the Watch is too slow. “The Apple Watch, as I reviewed it for >>> the past week and a half, is kind of slow. There’s no getting around it, no >>> way to talk about all of its interface ideas and obvious potential and >>> hints of genius without noting that sometimes it stutters loading >>> notifications.” >> I've heard that as well, but Apple did tell all reviewers that a software >> update would be coming to address that problem before the public launch on >> April 24. >> >> >>> • Manjoo says the Watch, unlike the iPhone or iPad, is not for “tech >>> novices.” ” There’s a good chance it will not work perfectly for most >>> consumers right out of the box, because it is best after you fiddle with >>> various software settings to personalise use. ” >> Sorry, I don't get this one. Your iPad has to know your iCloud information, >> then you have to go manually download any apps you want, manually configure >> mail accounts, set up your Notification Center and push notifications how >> you want them, log into all your social media accounts, and so on. No >> computer is going to be perfectly configured for you right out of the box, >> and I can't understand this complaint from the reviewers. >> >> >>> • Manjoo also says Watch apps don’t work very well. “The Uber app didn’t >>> load for me, the Twitter app is confusing and the app for Starwood hotels >>> mysteriously deleted itself and then hung up on loading when I reinstalled >>> it.” >> I can't comment directly here, as I of course don't have one, but all those >> are third party apps, correct? Who's to say those developers aren't at least >> partly to blame? Plus, these review units are still technically betas. If >> the final release has such problems, then yes, that won't be a pretty sight. >> :) >> >> >>> • Manjoo says you have to use Siri to use the Watch, and Siri still stinks. >>> “I grew used to calling on Siri to set kitchen timers or reminders while I >>> was cooking, or to look up the weather while I was driving. And I also grew >>> used to her getting these requests wrong almost as often as she got them >>> right.” >> I'm not surprised. Siri usually works well, but when I use it with my >> bluetooth headset, the failure rate goes way up. Hopefully Siri will get a >> whole lot better on the public end as well as the server end. >> >> >>> • Patel says the Watch, unlike the iPhone, requires two hands to use. “ You >>> simply can’t one-hand the Apple Watch…because it’s a tiny screen with a >>> tiny control wheel strapped to your wrist, you have to use both hands to >>> use it, and you have to actually look at it to make sure you’re hitting the >>> right parts of the screen. >> And you expected what, exactly? Perhaps it's because I'm used to a braille >> watch, but interacting with a wrist-mounted device will obviously require >> both hands. It's a bit misleading to say it that way, though, because one >> hand is tapping the Watch, but the other is still free. You can hold things >> with that free hand, you just have to keep your wrist still. >> >> >>> • Topolsky says the Watch isn’t a very good watch. “I’ve found the >>> experience somewhat inferior to that with a conventional wristwatch, due to >>> one small issue. The Apple Watch activates its screen only when it thinks >>> you’re looking at it…Think about the way people normally look at their >>> watches, then make it twice as aggressive.” >> This is another area I've wondered about. Again, due to my use of a braille >> watch, touching the Apple Watch to get the time seems obvious and not an >> issue at all. The motion-based checking, though, strikes me as a great idea >> that won't work correctly. Remember Siri's "raise to speak" feature, which >> worked about half the time? Even when it did work, there was a long enough >> pause between the motion and the "you can talk" beep that I sometimes >> lowered my phone to try again, only to have Siri suddenly kick in. This >> feature on the Apple Watch may work perfectly one day, but I'm not holding >> my breath for that perfection to arrive right away. Of course, I could be >> wrong, and it will be interesting to see how many people complain about this >> aspect versus how many love it. >> >> >>> • Patel says it’s not as good as an iPod at playing music. “Remember when >>> turning sixth-generation iPods into watches was a thing? That nano did a >>> great job of displaying a lot of music information on a tiny screen, and >>> the Apple Watch does not.” >> The Music app isn't perfect? Well, again, this is a first generation product >> with first generation software, in a whole new class of product design and >> human interaction. Plus, with the requirement that you use bluetooth >> headphones and the relatively low storage space, I can't imagine too many >> people using that app very often, at least not right off. It only takes an >> update to fix this 'problem', so if people don't like it, it can change. >> >> >>> • Patel says it’s not a very good communications device. “There’s no doubt >>> that being able to send quick replies from your wrist is a powerful idea; >>> it’s the stuff of science-fiction legend, and every smartwatch has to be >>> able to do it. But the Apple Watch is just the first step towards making >>> that reality. It’s not anywhere close to being an actually-powerful >>> communications tool, especially not when it’s competing with the phone in >>> your pocket.” >> See first-generation everything in my previous comment. Plus, with so many >> diverse use cases, who's to say that plenty of people won't find what this >> device can do right now quite useful? >> >> >>> • Patel says the Watch isn’t a great fitness tracker. “Out of the box >>> right now, the Apple Watch is a very expensive, barebones fitness tracker. >>> It’s much nicer than its competitors — I used it with the white sport band >>> and thought it was really quite striking — but it’s certainly not more >>> full-featured.” >> I'm confused. He says it's not great, then says it's better than everything >> else out there? Sorry, but which is it then? Plus, fitness-tracking using >> the existing sensors is all software, so as the initial wave of feedback >> comes in, Apple will almost certainly make changes. 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