OK, guys, I think we need to put this to rest and stop attacking me.  The 
Believer, as you can see, I was dead spot on with what Pam wanted, so as you 
say a good trainer would this, and that, who's the good trainer now, seeing you 
blew your cover for absolutely nothing!

Pam, I am glad I could be helpful.  Let me know if I can assist you any 
further.  It is my pleasure!

Chris.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pamela Francis 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 8:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


  Hello all,
  I'm certainly thankful for all the feedback my question generated. Chris is 
correct, I did not want to completely disable voiceover. However given that was 
the choice I had at the time along with creating a keystroke, I checked out 
creating the keystroke versus disabling voiceover at the time, disabling it was 
quicker. It would seem to me that there should be a district native to 
voiceover muting versus having to create one. I don't understand why that was 
an oversight on Apple's part. As I stated in my first email, I did hit the 
control key to shut it up yesterday. I would also want the opportunity to take 
notes. That point was also mentioned. Healthy discussions like this, are the 
reason for these lists; allowing all of us to learn from each other. Thanks 
again.

  Pam Francis

  On Apr 5, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Robert,

  She doesn't want to completely disable Voiceover.  She just wants to mute it. 
 Your solution certainly would work, but it might be overkill.  The thing is, 
if she needed to command+tab to another window, say to take notes or something, 
then she'd still have no speech.  Great suggestion, but, I'm just not so sure 
it would be the most comprable.

  Chris.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: ROBERT CARTER 
    To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
    Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 9:03 AM
    Subject: Re: Keystroke form muting voiceover


    Hi, 


    You can simply press command+f5 to toggle VoiceOver off and toggle it back 
on with command+f5 when the service is over.


    Robert Carter




      On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> wrote:


      Hi everyone,
      I plan to listen to a continuation of the services I was listening to 
yesterday,  this morning. Prior to going to the site, I will check out the 
suggestions given to me here to see if they work before I allow Alex to be 
disrespectful again. I'm truly surprised there is not a native keystroke to 
mmute voiceover as there is a trackpad gesture. I feel an email going to Apple 
accessibility. Let's hope it doesn't take them six updates to get it done.   

      Pam Francis

      On Apr 5, 2015, at 7:35 AM, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> 
wrote:


      Is there no actual keystroke to mute VO by default then? 




      On 5 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:


        If you have a braille display, you can use space with M to mute 
voiceover.

          On Apr 5, 2015, at 6:48 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:


          You can also use the keyboard commander. For example, I have it set 
so option-m mutes sounds and speech. To do this: 


          * Open the VoiceOver Utility and choose Commanders from the 
Categories table.
          * Select the Keyboard Commander tab, be sure the commander is on by 
checking the checkbox, and move past the table to the Add button. Activate that 
button.
          * You will be placed on a text field, even if VoiceOver doesn't tell 
you so. Press the key to be used (such as M), then vo-right to the menu button.
          * In that menu is a list of commands, sorted into categories. I 
believe the item you want, Mute VoiceOver, is in the Sounds submenu. Once you 
find it, hit enter.
          * Hit option-m to make sure things worked (it's a toggle, so hitting 
it again will bring VO back). If it worked, you can close the Utility. If not, 
let the list know and we'll try to figure out what happened.

            On Apr 5, 2015, at 5:16 AM, BBS <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:


            Hi Pam. If I remember correctly, with track pad commander on, you 
could double tap with three fingers on the trackpad to mute Voiceover just like 
double tapping with three fingers to mute it on an iPhone. If I'm wrong about 
this, someone correct me.

            Shawn
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<gypsykitt...@gmail.com>
            To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
            Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 1:12 AM
            Subject: Keystroke form muting voiceover


            Hi everyone,
            I was attempting to listen to a service over the Internet this 
afternoon. In so doing Alex continually seemed to want to give me every 
notification I would never have gotten had I been doing something I could've 
gotten away from or been able to repeat. Normally I don't mind. However in 
cases like this, is there a keystroke to mute voiceover until such a service or 
meeting is over? I hit the control key to shut him up, however he has since 
earned the name disrespectful Alex.

            Pam Francis

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