According to wikipedia Berkeley systems was bought out by Sierra Online in 1997 for $13.8M. Sierra was bought by Vivendi and apparently was then folded into iwin.com. I've met Peter Korn who was one of the primary Windows developers of outspoken. A very smart and gentle person.

CB

On 3/31/15 3:57 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
Hi,
I was under the impression that Berkeley systems got bought by Alva and, this is my own theory, they, Alva were more interested in Outspoken for Windows than they were of the mac version. Am i correct in any of this?
/Krister

30 mar 2015 kl. 21:53 skrev David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>>:

Hello,

Apple attempted to get Freedom Scientific to create a screen reader for OSX. FS refused, so Apple took development in-house.

Berkeley Systems was a small company. I visited their offices once in the mid 90's. I suspect Apple did not wish to use a small group for screen reader development again after Berkeley Systems went out-of-business.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 31 Mar 2015, at 07:37, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:

Hello,

On 30 Mar 2015, at 19:26, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com <mailto:fassl....@gmail.com>> wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but the reason Apple developed voiceover in the first place was that the only company making a screen reader for Mac OS went out of business. If that company couldn't survive before voiceover, it certainly couldn't survive now.


I was already a Mac user back when OS X first came out and Alva Access Group was still in business and wanted to make a screenReader for OS X. However, Apple would not give them access to the necessary information and it was a few years before it became clear that Apple had decided to make its own screen reader.

Along with quite a few other blind Mac users, I was unable to progress beyond OS9 and in fact remained with OS 8 as it was still working for me.

I protested vociferously to Apple about the lack of a screen reader and jumped on the public beta of VoiceOver in the summer of 2004. It was then known as the Spoken Interface.

Cheers,

Anne


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