I have an AppleVis article on commanders that might also be helpful: http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/understanding-and-using-voiceovers-commanders > On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:58 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It is pretty straightforward. > Bring up VO Utility with VO F8. > Interact with the Utility Table and navigate down to commanders. > Navigate across to the commander you want to set up, either keyboard or > numpad commander. > In keyboard commander you generally use the right option key. In numpad > commander there are more modifier options. > Assuming you are in keyboard commander you will normally leave the default > right option modifier set. > > Essentially in both sections you will then have the option to hit an add > button. type in the keyboard letter or number you want to assign to a > command. Navigate to the menu pop up button and select from a tree view the > Voiceover command you want to assign to that key. In this case you will find > the relevant commands under the tree view of navigation. Press enter on move > to beginning and you should have set your first key commander. > David Griffith > > > 02/2015 13:48, george b wrote: >> Is there a good place to go to learn how to make commanders, please. >> >> thanks >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 05:20 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Move to the top or bottom of a list in iTunes >> >> Um, because I didn't think of that. lol Great idea, I'll do it right now. >> Cheers, >> Donna >>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:54 AM, kliphzkor...@icloud.com wrote: >>> >>> Why not just create a commander? That's what I do, and it works >>> everywhere. So I use option 1 to go to the top of lists, and option 2 to >>> go to the bottom of lists. This also works in mail, safari, and folders. >>> JMO >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 7:19 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Move to the top or bottom of a list in iTunes >>> >>> Ah, yes, that did work. Still it'd be nice if there were a keystroke for >>> this that didn't require you to grow an extra finger. :) Cheers, Donna >>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> You have to press the function key as well. The combination we want is >>>> VO+FN+shift+left/right arrow. Be sure to interact with the list as well. >>>> >>>> Grant Hardy >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> Just tried this and it doesn't work for me. Running Yosemite, latest >>>> iTunes. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> You shouldn’t need the cmd key in this combination. The combination >>>>> VO-shift-left and VO-shift-right have been used to move to the top or >>>>> bottom respectively since VO came to life. Most of us would also need to >>>>> add the FN key if the checkbox is not checked in the Keyboard pane of >>>>> System Prefs pertaining to Function key usage. One should also note that >>>>> you will have to have interacted with the specific table in order for >>>>> this to work. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 14:15, Grant Hardy <grantha...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Faisal, the key combination FN+CONTROL+OPTION+COMMAND+ UP and DOWN ARROWS >>>>> works for you? That is to say, all four keys to the left of the spacebar >>>>> plus UP or DOWN? This unfortunately doesn’t work for me. I simply hear >>>>> the tone to indicate that I have pressed an invalid key, so that is >>>>> curious. >>>>> >>>>> Grant >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just invoke the end command by pressing fn, option command ctrl >>>>> down arrow >>>>>> On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am hoping this won’t turn out to be embarrassing question of the >>>>>> month, but I can’t for the life of me figure out if through is a command >>>>>> to move to the top or bottom of a long list of media in iTunes, such as >>>>>> a playlist. Generally, OPTION+UP ARROW and OPTION+UP ARROW work in >>>>>> tables but these commands don’t work in iTunes, and I’ve tried every >>>>>> other conceivable key combination I can think of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Grant >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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