Apart from money and still early days.
 You don't just build a device and put the top of the line tools into it.
With out testing by using the earlier technology to make sure things work
first.

 Give it a couple of generations of iphones, and they wil have 8mp or higher
cameras.

 Samsung are working on the 12mp camera for phones now, so it wont be long
till that's out 


-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2009 2:48 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone like KNFB?


Hi,

It's possible you might have heard someone say  just that. Some people  
are picky about it. :P

In all seriousness, sarcasm aside, I don't see why the camera couldn't  
be eight megapixels. As a blind user it's probably not necessary, mind  
you, since a two megapixels camera is probably fine for OCR in some  
cases, but that probably depends. The better the camera, the better  
results, and I suppose if you're picky about the results you get and  
you don't feel like doing some minor to major editing, you would  
belong to the group that complain about it. Personally I'll probably  
never use the camera, but that's personal preference. I've got an  
eight megapixels camera on my current phone and I've never used it.

Regards,
Nic
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On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

>
> But why, have you ever heard anyone say "nope sorry I won't buy an
> IPhone because it doesn't havea an 8MP camera"? Nope, neither has  
> Apple.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Portia
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:51 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone like KNFB?
>
>
> You never know, Apple might someday, <Grin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of william lomas
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:56 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone like KNFB?
>
>
> i would hav thought the IPhone camera, more so for the sighted
> community would have been of a higher standard these days. If nokia
> can produce eight MP surely the IPhone should match it?
>
> On 18 Oct 2009, at 02:25, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>
>>
>> It's N82's Flash that does the real trick and not so much the 5MPX
>> camera.
>> On 10/12/2009 7:56 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> Not sure the camera really does the OCR function. That's probably
>>> software after the photo is taken. That said, KNFB runs in the
>>> Nokia N82
>>> which has a 5 megapixel camera while the iPhone 3GS is just 3
>>> megapixels. Not sure how much the megapixels mater but for OCR more
>>> is
>>> probably better. If you figure even a relatively low res flatbed
>>> scanner
>>> will do 300 dpi, that means an 8x10 image will be 2400x3000 pixels  
>>> or
>>> 7.2 megapixels so the Nokia is already a compromise. None of this
>>> has to
>>> do with the OCR software being able to run on the iPhone CPU. The  
>>> OCR
>>> software isn't going to do a very good job if the quality of the
>>> image
>>> it has to work with is low.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> Rich Ring wrote:
>>>> The camera on the iPhone is not powerful enough to do O/CR.
>>>>
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   *From:* Ryan Dour <mailto:rd...@techminds4hire.com>
>>>>   *To:* MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>   *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 3:49 PM
>>>>   *Subject:* iPhone like KNFB?
>>>>
>>>>   Hello,
>>>>
>>>>   What apps could be added to an iPhone at this point to provide
>>>>   similar functionality to a KNFB phone? The key featuresthat could
>>>>   help are:
>>>>
>>>>   * OCR of documents, signs, product boxes, etc.
>>>>   * Talking pedestrian directions such as "You are approaching the
>>>>   corner of North Michigan Avenue and East Heron." When you get to
>>>>   the corner, "Turn right." and in a few more feet "Continue to the
>>>>   next corner, St. Claire and E Heron."
>>>>   * Color detection, providing reasonably good color matching or
>>>>   description.
>>>>   * Barcode reader with the ability to detect the barcode anywhere
>>>>   in the picture frame, not just across a red line on the screen
>>>>   that makes use difficult when you're only sure of the general
>>>>   location of the code. Ability to pair with external BlueTooth
>>>>   barcode scanner as an alternative could be sweet.
>>>>   * Talking compass, something very similar to the built-in
>>>> feature,
>>>>   but with names of directions quickly spoken.
>>>>
>>>>   Here's the great part, some of the apps exist, but don't offer
>>>>   full functionality.
>>>>
>>>>   * A Voice Compass - Literally a talking compass with great
>>>>   accuracy. It even cuts itself off if you turn it really fast,
>>>>   listen to the directions in an audio blur if you so choose.
>>>>   * Around Me - Great for POI, but that's where the fun ends. Also,
>>>>   great for getting phone numbers to places quickly.
>>>>   * Maps - Great for finding out where you are, and general
>>>>   directions. However, no warnings about distance as you move.
>>>>
>>>>   I've found apps that offer functionality beyond the typical
>>>>   blindness offerings that make life just sweet. For me, local apps
>>>>   can be fantastic:
>>>>
>>>>   * CTA Tracker - Easily the most accessible CTA tracking app. If
>>>>   you live in Chicago, this app provides complete details of busses
>>>>   at your local bus stops. Find a bus, wait for it to pull up and
>>>>   announce itself, then track your way to your destination with
>>>> time
>>>>   estimates. Simply awesome for commuting. If you leave the VO
>>>>   cursor on the next stop in the list, and turn Auto Lock off, VO
>>>>   will announce the stop the bus is approaching once a minute. Turn
>>>>   on your iPod, and let VO be the Dj telling you where you're at as
>>>>   you travel without having to keep one ear open for the bus PA
>>>> system.
>>>>   * Chipotle - Order some yummy food while you're on your way home.
>>>>   You can put together your order, choose toppings, sides, and a
>>>>   drink. You can then place a note on the order to let the great
>>>>   staff know you're blind, and to look out for ya when you get
>>>>   there. It has been a really amazing experience using this app. My
>>>>   reason, sometimes the restaurant is so loud that the staff start
>>>>   simply pointing at the toppings and looking for feedback from the
>>>>   customer. When you try and explain that you're blind, they don't
>>>>   speak up enough, or it really throws them off and they start
>>>>   missing toppings. Using this app, you get exactly what you wanted
>>>>   without the confusion of the Chipotle assembly line. Even better,
>>>>   your credit card never comes out of your wallet.
>>>>   *
>>>>   *
>>>>   *I've got many other apps, but these are some that I've used in
>>>>   the last few days. They provide me with tools that enrich my
>>>> life.
>>>>   There are others out there I know I'm missing, as the app store
>>>> is
>>>>   the hottest most crowded marketplace for software I've ever seen.
>>>>   If anyone else has ideas for apps that make the iPhone
>>>>   specifically a brilliant tool for a blind user, please let us all
>>>>   know. Beyond the Twitter and Facebook apps we all love, I'm
>>>>   looking for apps that help enhance real life activities happening
>>>>   in the real world.*
>>>>   *
>>>>   *
>>>>   *Thanks,*
>>>>   *Ryan Dour*
>>>>   *
>>>>   *
>>>>   *
>>>>   *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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>> vick08
>> or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com
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