Hi,

Actually Chris, this is a common misconception.  When your iDevice is backed up 
to iCloud, the entire device is not necessarily backed up.  That is, the OS and 
pre-installed apps are grabbed from Apple, only markers and setup info is 
stored for your apps as they are downloaded after the fact, and the same is so 
for your music.  The actual music is not stored in the iCloud backup, just a 
database of the songs, playlists and such that you can restore either from 
iTunes Match or your computer.  Thus, it is feasible to keep multiple backups 
of multiple iDevices in iCloud simultaneously.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Dec 13, 2014, at 20:25, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> The downside of iCloud backups is (I suspect) most folks have the free 5GB of 
> storage while most phones have a lot more than this to backup. I imagine very 
> few people can use iCloud backup without either paying for more storage or 
> stripping down what gets backed up to a bare minimum.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/13/14, 12:19 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Regarding iPhone backups.  The process is as follows.  If you have your 
>> iDevice set to use iCloud Backups, then it will automatically backup to 
>> iCloud when your iDevice is plugged in to power and connected to WiFi.  this 
>> is regardless of whether you have Mavericks, Yosemite, Windows or even a 
>> computer for that matter.  You can manually tell it to backup to iCloud from 
>> within the iCloud area of Settings on your iDevice.  If you have enabled 
>> iTunes WiFi Sync, then your iDevices will sync with your Mac when they are 
>> both connected to the same WiFi network and iTunes is open on the Mac.  This 
>> is done over the air so you don’t need to tether it with your USB cable in 
>> order for this to occur.  Realize though, that this is just syncing, it’s 
>> not backing up to iCloud.  If you have set your iDevice to backup to that 
>> same Mac instead of to iCloud, then backups should occur using WiFi Syncing 
>> to that Mac.
>> 
>> Hope this makes sense.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 16:49, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I am having problems with understanding Yosemite after coming from 
>>> Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> For instance, my understanding was if you locked your I phone, you could 
>>> back it up to iCloud.  However, this is not for me, as when I do it, I 
>>> always get the message that the process failed.  However, if I use my Mac 
>>> mini or I Mac to do this, my I phone gets backed up.
>>> 
>>> Another thing I just discovered today was, that I don’t have to have my I 
>>> phone connected to any devices and I can back it up to my I Mac or my Mac 
>>> mini without having to connect it although initially I did connect it to a 
>>> cable in the first instance when I was instructed to do so.
>>> 
>>> A very nice thing I discovered was that the iCloud website was better when 
>>> sorting out my rules as before on Mavericks the process was rather 
>>> complicated.  It’s so nice that Apple have worked to tidy things up now.  
>>> I’m so glad that braille is working at last on Yosemite as my Focus 40 
>>> would not connect via bluetooth.  Such a positive note for a good operating 
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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