Hi, Two things here. First, having the computer start up to a specific user is not particularly a safe or secure way to leave your computer, as anyone who sits at your computer has free and easy access to everything on your machine. One may say that you are the only one who uses this computer, so, it's immaterial. But, what if your machine is lost or stolen, thus, giving someone easy access to all you r personal or private data including web passwords if you use that feature within Safari. Now that I've stated the caveat, if you really want to do this, read on.
Secondly, to actually do either of these two things is relatively painless with VO. Go to System Preferences, in the Users & Groups pane. Click the lock at the bottom of this pane and enter your password, assuming that you're an Admin user. Navigate back to the top of the pane and Interact with the Users, Groups & Login Options list. Go down to the Login Options item then Stop Interacting with the list. Vo-right once which should bring you to the pop-up menu for choosing automatic logins. VO-space on that menu and choose the user. Usually, a password prompt will appear for the user's password, enter the password and you're done. Also, within this Login Options area, you will find the checkbox for having VoiceOver on in the Login screen. That's it, you're done. Again, I don't recommend setting your computer to automatically log in, but having VO on at the Login screen is great. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: > > Hi Juan > I wasn't going to write about this because I couldn't find an easy answer to > this, and I think there is one. I have a blind friend who just bought a > MacBook Pro under Mavericks, gotten about three weeks ago. We had the same > thing happen with hers that you are describing when we restarted the > computer. I was helping her learn a little VoiceOver before she went back > home and started her one-to-one training. I couldn't figure it out, but when > she did go for her training, Apple fixed hers right away so that the computer > defaulted to her as the user, which resulted in the VoiceOver coming up with > her desktop and everything. > > I found an article after I read your post that describes how to set a default > user. I did it by typing in "default user in Macintosh". This step by step > process, but it sounds like yours truly wouldn't want to do it. I never did > all they described in the article because Apple fixed mine so I never did > have to go through the choices you are describing and those my friend had on > her brand new computer. > > I guess for sighted people it's easy because you can just click on the user. > I researched this, as I said, and I am sorry I didn't find an easier answer. > If you are a new Mac user you definitely don't want to do what was described > on the Internet. If you are in the States, you might want to call Apple > accessibility at 877-204-3930. Otherwise, I hope someone else can come up > with a better answer than I found on the Internet. > > Regards, > Gigi > >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Juan Hernandez <juanhernande...@gmail.com >> <mailto:juanhernande...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> how does one get VO tok begin talking at the login screen? I have to keep >> turning it on at the screen. If Iknow how to make it startup, I can >> confirm/deny what you are reporting. >>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 3:16 PM, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:matthew.dy...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been using the new os for several days and have no problems here. I >>> have one question though and it has been on my mind for a while. When I >>> boot up and come to the login screen and vo comes up it fades in and so it >>> sounds kind of strange as if core audio has not fully loaded and so it kind >>> of fades in as audio drivers are loaded. Anyone noticing this? I am on a >>> 27 inch IMac. >>> >>> Matthew >>> matthew dyer >>> sent from my 27 inch iMac. >>> >>> >>> >>> facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Skype: graduater2004 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com >>>> <mailto:cah4...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> For one thing, not all keyboards appear to be supported by file vault. If >>>> you get stuck, that'seven a choice you will be given. I know hindsight is >>>> always 20/20 but if you had rebooted your computer when the password >>>> wasn'taccepted, if that is what happened, one of the choices would have >>>> been to entr your password and unencrypt. Then it just lets you reboot and >>>> sign in right away. As for the battery running down, I suppose you would >>>> have to set it to go to sleep before that happens. Right now I have >>>> decided not to use file vault especially because of the keyboard support >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheryl >>>> >>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >>>> thrown in the trash! >>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>>> And now, every day: >>>> "This I call to mind, >>>> and therefore I have hope: >>>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>>> never ceases; >>>> his mercies never come to an end; >>>> they are new every morning; >>>> great is your faithfulness." >>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:gigifi...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> I like Yosemite so far. My Finder is behaving better, etc. However, I had >>>>> to call that 877 number again, no choice. It seems that FileVault got me >>>>> in trouble when my battery went dead because yours truly let it go down >>>>> too far. Then I had trouble, can't remember all the steps, getting >>>>> VoiceOver to come on. When it did, I did something stupid that made me >>>>> get into changing the password. Now I have ended up with a slightly >>>>> changed Apple ID. My sighted husband had to move the mouse at one point >>>>> because VoiceOver wouldn't let me get into the place to type in the new >>>>> Apple ID. >>>>> >>>>> Now I have to let my computer encrypt my files, and then unencrypt them >>>>> so that I can disable FileVault. I can definitely see a case for having >>>>> it on here, but I am worried about going through the same difficulties I >>>>> had this morning should my battery run down again. I'm really more >>>>> concerned witht eh accessibility difficulties of leaving FileVault active >>>>> should this happen like this again. >>>>> >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Got my sounds back. Forgot that I muted my sounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would like other thoughts though. Oh, Got albums in iTunes organized >>>>>> right too. That's some new view to get used to: but, I reckon I can >>>>>> see the logic behind it and actually, I think I'm starting to like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 7:07 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the most part, I reckon I can get used to Yosemite fairly well. I >>>>>>> tend to like the way that Mail operates now in the standard view. I >>>>>>> love that messages are now tagged as read or not as the first thing one >>>>>>> here's while navigating through the table. Big plus that. The >>>>>>> sluggishness, I notice it for sure. Annoying? Yep, but, as long as I >>>>>>> can use it, okay I guess until Apple gets it fixed. Now, I could not >>>>>>> help but noticing, however, that most of my boundary sounds appear to >>>>>>> have gone. When I go VO left or right through windows to and away from >>>>>>> tool bars, and so forth, nost of the little sounds just are not there. >>>>>>> Can't figure how to bring them back. One thing I did notice right away >>>>>>> is that the new sounds appear to be softer, and, the sounds for Mail >>>>>>> have defintently been updated to match the iPhone sounds. Yeah, for a >>>>>>> first release, not too bad. Now, the new iTunes view? Wow! I see >>>>>>> what some people are complaining about: still and all, I poked around >>>>>>> enough with it last night to figure most of it out: or else, figure >>>>>>> out enough that the rest should not be that hard. Wow! They sure did >>>>>>> change where stuff is. I don't like that it reorganized my albums for >>>>>>> me but, I'll just have to polk around in there till I get my album >>>>>>> order back the way I want it. 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