Some of us don't want to swap a stable, fully functional system, for a more 
flaky one, still being refined; not even for new facilities.

The frustration and productivity factors.

RobH, understands that much.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: It’s official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: ‘It’s 
been way too long’


Hi all

I know we use our devices whatever ways suit us, but I struggle to
understand just why people won't update until bugs are fixed, with no
specific rhyme or reason at all. But being an Apple fan I'm bound to not
understand this. Sure I would like to see bugs fixed along with the rest
of you, but I learn to live every day with the bugs and workarounds if
any exist.


Sent from my laptop

On 09/10/2014 14:16, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> let me just say: yes, there are bugs. However, I am using my iPad and both 
> iPhones every day just as I have always use them. Do I have to do a few 
> little work arounds? Yes. But still, I am using all of my devices with 
> braille, with speech, with dictation and Siri and everything else and with 
> the addition of braille input right from the screen without using a 
> third-party app. So yes, I would like to see the bugs addressed and fixed, 
> but no, I do not find any of my devices have become nonfunctional or so 
> difficult to use that I have abandoned their normal daily, all day long, 
> constant place in my life!this is not to minimize the problems people are 
> having; I would just like to bring a little bit of perspective to this 
> issue.by the way, it seems ironic to me; I could not for the life of me 
> use MBraille and now I am enjoying the screen input of braille and people 
> who could use MBraille are having problems. I have no idea why this is 
> happeningi but well I know it isn't really funny for
 those who can't use the braille input,it does seem a little ironic to me. 
But believe me, I am hoping for relief for those who cannot use the built in 
braille input as soon as possible!
>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there
>> I don't think the bugs are that bad. If I lose VoiceOver, and sometimes 
>> when I press the home key when getting out of an app it happens, I just 
>> tell Siri to turn VoiceOver off then tell her to turn it back on again. 
>> The other thing has to do with the music coming on when you use two 
>> finger double tap to answer the phone or other things, too. I just do it 
>> again, and the music most of the tine shuts up. The other annoying one is 
>> when a link or button refuses to work. Most of the time I can get it to 
>> work with flicking up or down and then double tapping, (it was suggested 
>> on this list.) Sometimes it works if you locate it on the screen and 
>> split tap. Usually, I can find a work around. BARD Mobile has a few 
>> annoyances like jumping out of the app when downloading files. And 
>> finally, if you have been waiting for the Braille keyboard, I cant get it 
>> to work, even though I was fast with mBraille.
>>
>> I haven't yet written Apple Accessibility because I haven't had the time, 
>> and I think they probably know by now all these little annoyances. I am 
>> confident they will fix them soon with the next updates. I am not one of 
>> these people that gets hysterical about annoyances on an update. when you 
>> get your iPhone 6 plus it will be under IOS 8, I believe.
>>
>> Gigi
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had been waiting to upgrade my phone for some time and did choose the 
>>> 6plus.  The phone isn't here yet, but feels like a mini, mini in my 
>>> hand.  I did test to see if it would fit in my pocket -- and it did.
>>> I have not upgraded my current phone to IOS 8 due to multiple bug 
>>> warnings from a number of blind people around here.
>>>
>>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
>>>
>>> On 8 Oct 2014, at 13:00, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No, the bugs aren't all ironed out but I for one wasn't expecting that 
>>> this soon. As for never wanting to own a 6+ and not being crazy about 
>>> the 6, that's opinion to which we are al entitled. I am enjoying my 6+, 
>>> with iOS8 despite the bugs, imensely and the reason many different 
>>> phones are available and sell well is because people's likes and 
>>> dislikes are diverse. I realize a lot of people feel the 6+ is too large 
>>> and that certainly is a valid opinion; for myself, I would upgrade my 
>>> remaining 5S to a 6+ now if I could which is probably minority opinion 
>>> but proves the diversity of people's responses. As for bending, I am not 
>>> expecting that to happen, but if it does I have Apple Care and wil 
>>> request a replacement just as I would for any other product.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has Apple ironed out the bugs in iOS 8 yet? And, is the 6+ bending 
>>>> under pressure still a problem? Is it going to be a disaster for Apple? 
>>>> I've held both iPhone sixes, and I would never buy a 6+. In fact, I'm 
>>>> not too crazy about the six either.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's official, Apple confirms October 16th special event: 'It's been 
>>>>> way too long'
>>>>> by MacDailyNews
>>>>> [cfsp key="adsense_336x280"]It's official: Apple's invitation to media 
>>>>> outlets has confirmed they will be holding a special media event on 
>>>>> October 16, 2014.
>>>>> No word, yet, on whether Appel will attempt a live streaming broadcast 
>>>>> of the event. If so, hopefully, it'll go better than their last 
>>>>> attempt.
>>>>> Rumors and speculation call for new iPads, including a svelte new 
>>>>> A8-powered iPad Air with Touch ID, and new Macs, including the 
>>>>> possibility of a new 27-inch iMac with Retina display and maybe even a 
>>>>> new Mac mini.
>>>>> Also expected is the public release of OS X Yosemite, so we all 
>>>>> finally get some Continuity into our lives between our Macs and 
>>>>> iPhones, iPad, and iPod touches.
>>>>> And, as always, the possibility of "one more thing" looms.
>>>>> MacDailyNews will offer live notes that day starting at 10am PDT/1pm 
>>>>> EDT. Check our home page that day for the article link
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>>>>> Sent from my laptop
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