Hi Krister,
If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making
sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly
accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt
guidance come in extremely handy!
You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may
need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but
nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as
the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance
features help you orient the last bit if needed.
HTH,
Rachel.
On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn
and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the
clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a
bear with a very, very, vary little brain.
/Krister
21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com
<mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>>:
I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked
just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text.
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>
On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se
<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
Hi!
So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
/A
20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com
<mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>>:
GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly
good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of
something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of
mail under it, I tend to tip the phone.
The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation.
I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the
material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that
direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured
that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at
the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction
to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. 😣
Jenine Stanley
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On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com
<mailto:gigifi...@me.com>> wrote:
Hi there
Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut
it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure
that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding
the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review
function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the
time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to
change my position.
Gigi
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender <rbende...@gmail.com
<mailto:rbende...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and
reading about the results from others on the list. I had the
opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5
years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page.
I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just
after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old
app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are
a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not
been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the
iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really
seems that they did a great job on writing an app which
compensates for blind users.
I plan to try more documents today.
On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com
<mailto:gigifi...@me.com>> wrote:
Hi Pete
You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB
reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get
the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw.
Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and
I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option
on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be
to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my
question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to
work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old
one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was?
Regards,
Gigi
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar <pap...@gmavt.net
<mailto:pap...@gmavt.net>> wrote:
Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works
better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was
today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly
Pete
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr
<rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days
are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good
results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine
Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB
reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and
accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right.
I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app
that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and
iphone user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility
for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling
<lisettewessel...@gmail.com
<mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first
picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card
statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird
abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up
and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had
anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text
Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas
KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to.
It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth
it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others,
but it was all there was at the time and they served their
purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone.
It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to
when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
Good luck with your decision
Lisette
On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com
<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:
Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about
whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely
happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place
where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the
positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
Thanks,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly
<kdmattin...@gmail.com <mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary <gary.robl...@gmail.com
<mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, I know.
Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
Gary
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
<came...@cameronstrife.com
<mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com>> wrote:
$100? Ouch.
On 9/19/14, Chris G <jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com
<mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com>> wrote:
Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
Chris
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Kevin Mattingly <kdmattin...@gmail.com
<mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
Sent from my iPhone
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Apparently the app is $100.
CB
Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National
Federation of the
Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to
print by the blind,
has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app
for the iPhone and
other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR)
technology to give
the blind instant access to the contents of print
materials. Members of
the National Federation of the Blind have worked with
K-NFB Reading
Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with
Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation
of the Blind, said:
"The National Federation of the Blind has been
involved for forty years
in the development of technology that helps blind
people to acquire
access to the various print materials that we all
encounter from day to
day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray
Kurzweil to develop the
Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a
household appliance,
we have been interested in the development of better
and more portable
reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers,
letters, menus,
labels, and throughout our environment is still a part
of everyday life,
even with the increased electronic transmission of
documents. Now
revolutionary technology that resides on the phones
that many of us
carry each day provides instant access to the printed
word. We can hear
our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken
with the iPhone's
built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in
Braille with a
refreshable Braille display. This app will
fundamentally change the
everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get
the information
we need and live the lives we want."
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