Hi Yuma,

Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

>
> Hi ester,
>
> I just had to interact with it and vo backslash.
>
> ha :)

Ah yes, interacting first -- the obvious solution.  Are you generally  
using a U.S. keyboard for input?  I couldn't tell, which is why I gave  
you the alternate solution of using the Commands menu for things like  
expanding and sorting.  Even there you have to interact first to see  
the option.

There are actually Mac shortcut keys to expand all streams at once if  
you are at the folder level.  I don't use them, because they also  
update the feeds, and if you're opening radio feeds they take a while  
to open everything, and navigating is also more of a nuisance.  You  
have to expand or collapse streams (or, for that matter, podcast  
subscription folders) at the top level, so unless you only plan to  
keep a few categories open, it's easier to collapse the stream again  
when you're done.  If you want, you can try Command-Option-Right  
bracket to open all streams.  Be aware that you won't be able to use  
Command-Option-Left Bracket to close them again unless you are at one  
of the top level stream categories, so if you have navigate with your  
arrow keys to the middle of a list of streams that command won't work.

What I would do is make a playlist of the streams you want so you can  
select and play streams from the playlist without having to navigate  
the list of streams.   You can select a few streams and use  Command- 
Shift-N ("New playlist from selection") or you can simply use Command- 
N to create a new (blank) playlist that you name, then copy and paste  
selected streams to it.  If you want to do a lot of streams, you might  
review the mac-accessibility hint on how to do non-contiguous  
selection at lioncourt.com:


http://www.lioncourt.com/2008/04/09/mac-cessibility-quick-tip-12/

This tells you the sequence of commands to use, but doesn't go into  
the details behind what is happening, and how to make sure about what  
you are selecting.  Make sure you have interacted with the Songs table  
beforehand -- I generally position myself with VO-right or left arrow  
to the  "Name" column, and I may even use VO-Shift-H to check the  
heading -- and that you may have pressed VO-space instead of VO- 
Command-Space.  If I'm going to go through a long list of selections  
I'll lock my VoiceOver keys with VO-semi-colon. Then I arrow down (or  
up) through the list by pressing Command-Space for each entry. (If you  
pressed VO-space instead of VO-Command-Space you just get the bleep;  
when you lock your keys it's easier to check that you're using both  
the Command and spacebar keys -- especially since VO-space is such an  
automatic sequence.)

Another thing to keep in mind is that VO-Command-Space is a toggle  
action, so if you have selected an item and issue another VO-Command- 
Space you deselect it.  If you want to check on what you've selected,  
use VO-F6. Try it with your first selection.  It should be selected  
when you start.  If you use VO-Command-Space on your first selection  
(instead of just when you add subsequent ones selections) you get "No  
Selection" when you check with VO-F6.

So the recommendations are:
• make sure you interact
• lock your VoiceOver keys (VO-semi-colon) if you have a long list  
(not necessary, but helpful)
• then turn off cursor tracking with Shift-F3 (VO-Shift-F3)
• arrow up/down and use Command-Space to select (or de-select, if you  
make a mistake) entries after the first one (VO-Command-Space) --  
doing the non-contiguous selection this way requires that cursor  
tracking be turned off to jump over the items you don't want
• check what you have selected with F6 (VO-F6)
• when you're done, unlock your VoiceOver keys (press semi-colon)
• copy your selection (Command-C) or do whatever else you want
• turn cursor tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3)

There are probably simpler ways to do this now with the Snow Leopard  
options.  If you're into using AppleScripts, you can also find one  
called "Jump to Playlist" at the dougscripts  AppleScripts for iTunes  
site. Go to:

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/missingmenu.php

and use item chooser menu to find the "Jump to Playlist" heading level.

Cheers,

Esther


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