Thank you. I have not played with this method though I have seen it in the menu. My initial thought was that it needed a full mac keyboard. I have a laptop. That's why I didn't attempt to use it.
Pam Francis On Aug 24, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi. You can change it to use either option key. In the popup, you can select left, right or both option keys. HTH. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 Work email:matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Personal email: matt.dierck...@gmail.com > On Aug 24, 2014, at 20:17, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > I hope someone can clear something up for me. Since the keyboard commander > discussion has come up, I've heard more than one user referred to the right > option key as the one to use. Is that correct or can it be either option Key? > Thanks > > Pam Francis > > On Aug 24, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Thanks Kliphton, I’ve learnt something new from you, option U for unread > message count. I do use the keyboard commander quite a bit to launch mail, > right option M etc. > > Kawal. >> On 24 Aug 2014, at 17:51, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I personally like the commander method. There are ones already built in. >> Like option M to get to mail, option s to get to safari, option t for the >> time, option u for unread email count. And you can create your own also. I >> have option b for my blogging app, option v to open my video conversion app, >> and option w to open VM fusion. JMO >> >> >> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick >> efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? >> Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are >> always patient with you. >> Subscribe here: apple4beginners-subscr...@yahoogroups.com >> All are welcome! >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfPamela Francis >> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 9:43 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Novice/New VO User & Mac OSX "mail" Launch >> >> Hello Robin, >> We as blind and low vision users are very fortunate to have the alternatives >> we do and the accesssibility within the Mack OS. It's not about a right or >> wrong way to do something. It's about something we as a visually impaired >> community have struggled with for years, choice. All of us on this list have >> varying levels of expertise using the Mac. In many cases, the basic mac >> keystrokes are synonymous with what one can use with voiceover. That in >> itself is a sign of true accessibility. I frankly have learned something >> from this thread not knowing all of the various ways one can get to a >> specific program. I too like to use my doc or spotlight. However I was not >> aware of the keystrokes to get through finder to accomplish the same thing. >> When I first got my Mac, I felt the combination of keystrokes to use voice >> over felt cumbersome. I learned the trackpad gestures. At the time, that was >> easy enough for me to at least figure out my way around the OS. I >> subsequently got more familiar with the keystrokes. If our new Mac user >> has issues with dexterity and the voiceover keystrokes, triple tap on the >> bottom of the trackpad to get to the dock. Use the arrow keys to navigate >> the dock. Henceforth another way to get what you want. We have had many >> suggestions within this thread. I hope The original poster finds them >> helpful. >> >> Pam Francis >> >> On Aug 24, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> As I understand it, the "Orginal Message" dealt with a "new" MacBook Air >> user, and he/she wanted to know the quickest way to get to the "mail" >> program on the Mac OSX. I presumed he/she didn't know very much about VO >> (VoiceOver) so I decided to provide him/her the quickest way to get there as >> I have been informed by Ol'Sighty using Basic Mac OSX KeyBoard Commands >> rather than using Basic VO KeyBoard Commands. I agree there are quite a few >> ways to perform the same function on a Mac. >> >> I thought "we" as "the Blind & LowVision Community" wanted to utilize Basic >> Mac OSX KeyBoard Commands rather than use alternative KeyBoard Commands, but >> I presume from the responses on "This List", I'm wrong about that as well. >> >> t 05:56 AM 8/24/2014, you wrote: >> >> Yet another is to go to Finder, hit cmd-shift-a to open the Applications >> folder, and navigate to and open Mail from there. Yes, the Mac usually has >> many ways to skin the proverbial cat. I prefer Spotlight for opening things, >> but that's just me. >> On Aug 24, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >> >> >> Another alternative is just to put an alias on your desktop. I've done that >> ever since I got my first Mac. >> Donna >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:50 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> >> I don't really think your method is faster. You go to the dock, type m or ma >> and mail is there; do enter or vo-space. I've never done this other method >> myself but I suppose it's all about what one is used to; you always think >> what you are used to doing is fastest. >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net > wrote: >> >> >> I suggest, what I presume would be a quicker way to Launch "The Mail" >> program on a MacBook Air, and that IS "SpotLight". To activate, I recall, >> you simply do the following: >> >> Press COM + Space Bar >> Then >> Type "Mail" >> Then >> Press either Enter/Return Key OR CRTL + OPT + Space Bar >> (This should LAUNCH your "Mail" program on your MacBook Air if I am CORRECT >> with the Steps.) >> >> COM = Command Key >> CRTL = Control Key >> OPT = Options Key >> >> >> Am I RIGHT Advanced VoiceOver (VO) users??? I'm fairly NEW as a Totally >> Blind VO user myself, but I feel that the Steps that I listed above are the >> Fastest way to LAUNCH the "Mail" program on a MacBook Air rather than going >> to "The DOC", and then selecting "Mail" from "The DOC". >> >> Just Sayin' >> >> At 03:10 PM 8/23/2014, you wrote: >> >> Hi. It should be in your dock. Just press VO+D to get to the dock and it >> should be there. 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