hi, to Pamela and others, there are not stupid questions only stupid answers. Or as we say on irc even we sometimes regret it , don't ask to ask just ask. :))) Sandi
On 8/20/14, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > Yes I use an activity in Night Owl to give me a hot key to let me know how > many characters I have remaining in a tweet, and to automatically speak when > I change view, such as from Home to Mentions etc. > I also use an activity to set verbosity to low in Mail, to get around the > disclosure triangle Mail bug that was introduced with Mavericks. > There is currently an unfortunate bug where if you use one of the Nuance > voices, switching applications if an activity is involved takes a long time. > This may be the performance issue Rachel was referring to. Hopefully this > will be address in Yosemite as activities are really useful. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 21/08/2014, at 5:25 am, Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Pam, >> >> activities are a pretty neat feature. Let's say, in Safari, if you always >> wanted quick nav to turn on when you went to the browser, you could set it >> up so it would do so when you opened Safari, as an example. It's a way of >> automating tasks so Voiceover can do some of the work, leaving you to be >> more efficient. >> I don't know if it still is, but I found that activities (at least using >> the quick nav example) tended to slow Voiceover's performance, but the >> principle is fantastic. >> HTH, >> Rachel. >> On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> This topic brings me to a question I have never had the courage to ask >>> because I don't want to be considered stupid. What is the purpose in >>> activities and how do you use them? I've never messed with it in the >>> three years I've had my computer and don't understand what they're there >>> for. If I remember correctly they are not addressed in the initial >>> voiceover tutorial one can use when learning how to get around the Mac. >>> >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the few tips. I actually hate the track pad. But will do >>> what you suggested! >>> >>> Kliphton >>> (iMessage&Email) m.kliph...@gmail.com >>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>> (Personal blog, read at your own risk!) >>> http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> So, you think you're ready to move up to the VO big leagues eh? >>>> >>>> I tend to go with self help. I often check out the VO-H command menus >>>> reading the command descriptions to see what I can do. I also look in >>>> the VO Utility application where you can assign actions to keys and see >>>> and control verbosity. I was using VO before the trackpad commander, so >>>> I tend to use the keyboard commands exclusively. If you are a trackpad >>>> user, look into the commander functions, or the Numpad commander >>>> functions, and use both keyboard and trackpad to your advantage. There's >>>> a lot of customizations you can make within the VO Utility. >>>> >>>> I think my favorite command beyond the basics is simply the VO Shift C, >>>> copy last phrase spoken to the clipboard. And the second most useful >>>> command I tend to use is the move mouse cursor to voiceover cursor with >>>> VO Command F5. I tend to use that for working around voiceover issues >>>> with the contextual menus or a stubborn button that won't activate. So, >>>> at that point I will use the mouse button like any sighted user would. >>>> >>>> Another fun game to play is to enable keyboard help, with VO K, and then >>>> just hit keys with the VO controls down to hear what they do. Be sure to >>>> use all the modifier combinations. >>>> >>>> And the other important thing is to ask the list if there is an easier >>>> way to do something that annoys you. Odds are, there probably is, and >>>> you'll get the answer here. >>>> >>>> Enjoy. >>>> --K >>>> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the >>>> questions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Kliphton Senior <m.kliph...@icloud.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, now that everyone knows the basics, what are some advanced things >>>>> voice over users can learn? Where would we find documentation on this? >>>>> They have a lot of tutorials out there, but most of it is for the >>>>> beginner, what about the advanced user? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email tomacvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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