I think my I Mac came with Mountain Lion, what was it in January 2013?  I liked 
it when I first came across a Mac, there were such voices as Bad News.  I 
wonder how many of you use Bad News?  I don't even know if it's on Mavericks 
right now.

Kawal.
On 26 Jul 2014, at 10:31, Christopher Hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
wrote:

> I wish I could install Snow Lepard on my Mac smile. But if I'm correct Apple 
> does not allow such downgrades because of when they were sold.
> 
> On 26/07/2014 09:45, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Well, my Mac came with mountain lion, so I don't know what the good about 
>> snow leopard is. I do wish the speech server was more responsive, which can 
>> be tested by noticing the time between the VoiceOver sounds and speech.
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 2:51, Christopher Hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very true in that newer is not always better. My mac came preinstalled with 
>>> Lion so I could go back to it if I really wanted to using Internet 
>>> Recovery. I could also reinstall Mountain Lion by downloading it from the 
>>> Mac App Store. Guess it's each to their own but since my mac is not my 
>>> primary machine I don't mind upgrading and living the possible consequences.
>>> 
>>>> On 25/07/2014 23:34, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> Warning: whiny rant ahead.
>>>> 
>>>> I made the mistake of reinstalling Snow Leopard on one of my older 
>>>> machines that supported it.  I also learned that my desktop iMac 
>>>> originally came with it, and that although difficult, I could choose to 
>>>> use it.  This would still be preferable to going back to Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> I say "Mistake" because using Snow Leopard again, even for a short while, 
>>>> made me realise just how stupid and pointless all subsequent releases of 
>>>> OS X have been.  I mean, really, it's just gimmicks and iOS envy.  The 
>>>> small number of worthwhile features that came with newer OS releases could 
>>>> easily have been foregone or substituted if it meant getting back what I 
>>>> most liked about a clean, stable, functional OS like Snow Leopard.  How 
>>>> could I have upgraded three OS releases and not noticed that?  I guess the 
>>>> "Magic" of Apple is really that they can convince people to accept 
>>>> unwelcome change, even for some trifling little benefit which they will 
>>>> sell as a "Feature" to justify an entire OS upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> So, to answer your question, the reason to install ML over Mavericks is 
>>>> that newer is not always better, but that ML is a good bit more stable and 
>>>> comes from a better cut.  However, I do recommend it in this instance, 
>>>> because Apple has abandoned accessibility support for ML, and you won't 
>>>> get system software updates that address any accessibility issues.  I 
>>>> know; I asked.  There are a couple of minor changes in Mavericks besides 
>>>> that make it worth having, like invisible Time Machine backups, and 
>>>> multi-process Safari.  However, you'll have to learn how to work the new 
>>>> iBooks, if you need it, and there are definite stability issues.
>>>> 
>>>> /me wonders if he should install Snow Leopard on my primary desktop, and 
>>>> live forever in a better time ...
>>>> 
>>>> No, probably not.  I would only hurt myself in the long run.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I saw the latest Yosemite, in case anyone's wondering.  I'm not 
>>>> telling you what to expect, but you can sign up for the beta for free.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sabahattin
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