Karen:
I fully agree. It really does feel like we're slapping Apple in the
face, forcing them to conform. I really really hope this doesn't work,
because it's going to create a huge mess and totally redefine apps. Not
everything is accessible but that really is fine with me; usually I can
find an app that is. It's what happens when you use anything, really. My
thoughts are mainly money based: how much money will NFB get for
consulting for something like this, and secondly how is this trash going
to redefine apps on the iPhone? It's not going to be all that hard for
NFB to use their power to force things into IOS/apps that don't need to
be there, force things out, etc.
On 7/12/2014 9:25 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Let me see if I understand this.
Apple who has built in innovation on its own must discuss with the nfb
how to now limit that innovation to fit the nfb's one size fits all
definition of blindness? as in all blind people are interchangeable,
and the nfb is the only source to tell you how to find a plug and
play blind person by which you measure what works for them...all 400
plus million of them?
I wonder how much money they plan on extorting for this dialog?
Not only should it be a blanket resolution, BTW android phones are the
most popular in use now according to annual surveys, but this dialog
should involve many organizations, and a group of apple customers who
are not members of a consumer organization whatsoever.
The very suggestion that a single body is in a position to speak for
every child born of women who happens to have the label blind attached
to them is a stereotypes that really needs to end. otherwise the
individuality that is the rich experience of redefining blindness is
not going to exist for the millions who need not buy the nfb line to
live freely and inclusively.
Why does the nfb not spend its energy training software developers who
fit their one size fits all blindness box?
Many companies besides Apple would get the benefits that way.
just my take,
Karen
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014, Pamela Francis wrote:
Hello,
I personally am not in favor of this resolution; not because I don't
want accessibility. Apple took the lead in making its products
accessible without government or organizational intervention.
Microsoft, on the other hand, allowed third-party vendors to do its
work within accessibility. Google, though it has come along way,
still does not want to adhere to its own standards unless it is pressed.
If there was a resolution to be had, it should've been a blanket
resolution for all companies dealing with accessibility. Picking on
Apple, is as if we as a blind community are slapping it in the face
given that it has continued its efforts to remain accessible. I
understand the need for utilitarian apps such as maps, transit maps,
notes, lists, etc. to remain accessible as they are a necessary
function in normal life. However, just to use as an example I don't
necessarily need Angry Birds to be accessible for my benefit nor do I
need it to be threatened to be kicked from the app store due to
inaccessibility for the sake of millions of people who enjoy it.
As we continue to strive for accessibility in all areas, we need not
be a bully to the company that went out of its way to make its
products accessible from the beginning.
We also do not need to be put into a societal box allowing
electronics manufacturers, appliance manufacturers, and the general
public to believe that all we are capable of is operating an iPhone.
We are on the cusp of choice. We have fought for choice for a long
time. This type of a resolution makes us look militant and
ungrateful. What is fair for one company is fair for all.
Pam Francis
On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Terje Strømberg
<terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
The NFB Resolution is very important for all blind and low vision all
over the world. We all want accessible digital future.
A link to a comment from the president in NFB:
https://nfb.org/blog/vonb-blog/comments-apple-and-nfb-resolution-2014-12
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