Esther you just got in ahead of me, though I must confess your mail  
was infinitely clearer than mine would have been.  Thanks very much  
for the spotlight tip I'd missed that one.  While using control-space  
isn't inconvenient, I agree wholeheartedly with you regarding an  
unwillingness to change default key assignments.

Cheers

Donal
On 25 Sep 2009, at 20:09, Esther wrote:

>
> Hi Dónal,
>
> Well, in your case the easiest way to type "o acute" would probably be
> to switch to an Irish keyboard and press Option+O, which would save
> you one extra keystroke.  You can select this under the
> "International" menu of "System Preferences" by going to the "Input
> Menu" tab, interacting with the table, and then checking the box to
> turn on the keyboard for either "Irish" or "Irish Extended".
> (Probably "Irish" is preferred, since it will give you the characters
> you want without having to use Unicode encoding extensions.)  The
> input language keyboards are listed alphabetically after a few
> character-based language options (for Chinese, Korean, etc.).  If you
> don't currently use the option key to type any special characters, you
> can just keep the Irish keyboard as your default keyboard.  It will
> only affect which option key combinations you will need to press for
> other special characters that are probably infrequently used.
>
> With the Irish keyboard selected you would be able to type acute
> accents over all vowels just by pressing the option key at the same
> time: á é í ó ú  And you could type o+e and a+e ligatures by
> pressing option+q and option+apostrophe: "œ" and "æ".
>
>
> The easiest way to figure out different input keyboards is to use
> TextEdit and start typing combinations with variations of pressing the
> option, command, control and shift keys.
>
> Getting back to input language keyboard selection, you can check as
> many languages as you wish to use in the table on the Input Menu tab,
> then stop interacting and check the box for "Show input menu in menu
> bar" so that your current text input language keyboard appears on the
> status menu bar.   You'll also notice that just after the table of
> keyboard layouts there are Input menu shortcuts for quick switching
> between your different keyboards. There is a conflict between the
> default input switching shortcuts and the Spotlight shortcut -- Apple
> assigned the same shortcut to Spotlight as it had been using for many
> years for input switching.  I've changed my shortcut for  "Select
> previous input source:"  to be "⌥⇧Space"  and  "Select next input
> source in menu: " to be "⌥Space".  You can press (VO-Space) the
> button for Keyboard Shortcuts to be taken to the "Keyboard Shortcuts"
> tab of the "Keyboard & Mouse" menu (in Leopard) to reassign the
> shortcuts.  I'm not upgraded yet to Snow Leopard, so I won't try to
> give exact directions, but in Leopard you'd interact with the table of
> shortcuts, navigate to the end with VO-End (on a laptop this would be
> VO-Fn-Shift-Right Arrow), and then VO-Left arrow back to the
> Description column and VO-Up arrow to find the entries for "Input
> Menu" and "Spotlight".  I'd expand each entry (VO-backslash on an
> English input keyboard; or VO-H twice to bring up the Commands menu
> and select "Toggle Disclosure Triangle" will work if you don't have an
> English input keyboard).  Then I'd uncheck the boxes for the Spotlight
> commands in conflict (temporarily) and check the boxes for the input
> menu shortcuts I'd want to assign.    There used to be an incredibly
> annoying focus bug, where you couldn't reassign the shortcut by
> following the instructions to double-click in the column for the the
> new shortcut (with VO-Shift-Space) and then type in the new sequence
> -- just for these keys because of the conflicting definitions.  It  
> turned out that if you simply tabbed to the column for the new
> shortcut and typed in the new shortcut assignment, things would work.
> Alternatively, if you wanted to avoid these frustrations, you could
> check the boxes for both Spotlight and Input Menu shortcuts (with
> exactly the same definitions), and then stop interacting with the
> table and go to the "Restore Defaults" button and press it (VO-Space).
>
> Persevering with the shortcut change would leave me with these
> definitions:
>
> Input Menu:
>    Select the previous input source                                   
> Option-Shift-Space
>    Select the next input source in the input menu             Option-Space
>
> Spotlight:
>     Show Spotlight search field                               Command-Space
>     Show Spotlight window                                     
> Command-Shift-Space
>
> Taking the easy route of pressing the "Restore Defaults" button would
> give me:
>
> Input Menu:
>    Select the previous input source                                   
> Command-Space
>    Select the next input source in the input menu             Option-Command-
> Space
>
> Spotlight:
>     Show Spotlight search field                               Control-Space
>     Show Spotlight window                                     
> Control-Option-Space
>
> I don't like changing standard defaults for things like Spotlight, so
> I prefer the first route.
>
> You'll probably need to restart your machine to have the shortcuts
> take effect, since they'll across all applications.  If you don't
> change language keyboards, or do so only rarely, there's no need to
> define a shortcut.  You can just use VO-M twice or Control-F8  to move
> to the status menu bar and navigate to the "Text Input" menu, arrow
> down, and set your input language keyboard.  However, if you're
> composing in another language, it's convenient to just use Option-
> Space to switch into the keyboard for the next language in the list.
>
> I confess that I never type frequently enough on an AZERTY (French)
> keyboard to get used to having my "A" and "Q" keys and "W" and "Z"
> keys switched, so I will switch to a Canadian French keyboard instead,
> that gives me the accented characters, but leaves the letters in the
> order that I'm used to.
>
> HTH.  Incidentally (off this topic),  how did your Open VPN solution
> work out?  Did Viscosity work accessibly for you?  There   was an
> interesting blog post from Rogue Amoeba about the accessibility issues
> in the status menu bar icons:
>
> http://www.rogueamoeba.com/utm/2009/08/27/soundsource-2-5-and-a-story-about-the-menubar/
>
> It turns out that those applications like Tunnelblick and Viscosity
> which have status bar menu icons that VoiceOver can't access use
> Apple's recommended (for third party software) “NSStatusItem”
> method of implementing the icon, while apps that do provide icons that
> VoiceOver can see implement the menu bar icon using the  
> “menuExtra”
> method that Apple uses for its own software.  Software developers that
> use the "menuExtra" method rely on a "haxie" called "Menu Extra
> Enabler" from Unsanity, which has to get fixed up each time there is
> an operating system upgrade.  My archived post about this is at:
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg09249.html
> (Accessible Status Menu Bar Icons and VoiceOver)
>
> in case you want to read more about this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
>
> Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Just wondering if there is an easier way to type accented characters
>> than the method I'm presently using.  Let's assume I want to insert
>> the letter "o acute" into a document.  The way I'm presently doing
>> this is to press "option-e" followed by "o".  Is there a way to do
>> this in one keystroke?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dónal
>>>
>
>
> >


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