Hi list, If it's all right with the moderator, I'd like to weigh in on this.
I've posted here before about my startup, Zagga Entertainment We're creating a fully accessible VOD service featuring movies and TV shows with described video. I started the company when I didn't want to have to put up with the frustration of navigating silent DVD menus and after I couldn't find audio description online. I put together a prototype of the site and service I'm creating and we've made incredible progress over the last year with getting investors and the studios interested in what we're doing. Our development is underway and an iOS app is in the works with full VO compatibility, Airplay support and a secure back end. I recognize that all of the other solutions that have been tried aren't working very well. The onus gets put on the studio and there are additional steps in the workflow that are required to make other apps work. It's not just description that suffers, it's language dubs, closed captioning, versioning for foreign distribution and so on. I've got a background in this as someone who's worked in the media business for a long time. Right now, we're crowd funding to make the full version of our site happen. It's our way of letting our investors know that there's a demand for a service like this. In my meetings with these guys, they fall over in shock when i pull out my iPhone to show them how their own video apps aren't accessible or their Flash-based websites that feature described video films can't be operated with Voiceover. They know there's a need for this service and want to help us. I want to help us. If you haven't checked it out already, here's the link t our crowd funding campaign: http://igg.me/at/zagga You can test drive our prototype player at http://zagga.tv. Feel free to bug me. I'm glued to my Macbook Pro. Email ke...@zagga.tv and I'd be happy to talk about this with you off list. Thank you and I hope we can get something going that will benefit blind people and their friends and families. Kevin On 2014-06-01, at 11:41 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if or how much would be charged for the description, but > somebody may have to pay for the on-going app development, servers, etc. > These other guys offered it for free and guess what happened. they went > broke! That's right, they're broke. You have to have a viable business model > to keep something like this going. You can't rely on grants; ads suck; at > least, I don't like invasive ads so I'm willing to pay for such things if > reasonably priced. One idea is that the movie industry should underwrite the > cost of distributing video description. In fact, some theater chains are > offering description for no additional charge. But if it can only be done by > a 3rd party company, then they need to stay in business some how and we may > as well step up to the plate to offer support to the same. > > On Jun 1, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Jessica <jldai...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The application is still in the App Store. The audio description used to be >> free. Why would they start charging us now? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 1, 2014, at 3:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for letting me know the company is no more. I'm glad I didn't spend >>> money buying the audio description track. It did seem odd there was only >>> one film there which was making me suspicious. >>> Thanks to all who answered my original question. >>> >>> Lisette >>> >>>> On 1/06/2014, at 7:31 pm, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The Movie Reading app is the one you're looking for. You have already >>>> found it though, based on your earlier messages in this thread. Problem >>>> now is Solo DX, the original developers of this app have gone belly up. >>>> the better news is that apparently another group is going to offer a >>>> similar service. I'm not sure if they will pick up with this app or start >>>> over with something else. I forget the name right now. I think there are a >>>> couple groups getting into this game so I hope somebody gets going with a >>>> successful business model so we can have something more reliable. >>>> >>>>> On May 31, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh wow, will have to check that out, would love an app that could do that >>>>> on its own though, considering the fact that to my understanding, unless >>>>> things have changed, it's a pain to set your TV up to do it. Maybe there >>>>> will be one at some point though, considering how quickly technology is >>>>> evolving. >>>>>> On May 31, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was doing some poking around, and noticed a lot of audio-described >>>>>> movies when I put "DVS" inthe search field on the app store. I haven't >>>>>> checked out tv shows yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> Winging its way from my iPod >>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 31, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wish it had the option to have audio description for tv shows instead >>>>>>> of theater only, considering the fact that people want to know what's >>>>>>> happening on the shows they're watching as well, and it can be a pain >>>>>>> in the kneck to set your TV up in order to have audio description, and >>>>>>> not everybody wants to hear it. >>>>>>>> On May 31, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Jamie Tachiyama <jathlet...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree, it was a disappointment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jamie T >>>>>>>> Blind Dragon Hobbies >>>>>>>> One stop shopping for all your gaming needs. >>>>>>>> http://www.blinddragonhobbies.com/ >>>>>>>> Twitter: @BDHobbies >>>>>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blinddragonhobbies >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>>>>>>>> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes Philomena is still the only one they have. I want to watch that >>>>>>>>> particular film so will use it, but it's a shame there's nothing else. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 31/05/2014, at 3:01 pm, Christina C. <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I could be wrong but, the last time I looked the only movie >>>>>>>>>> available wit the movie reading app is Filamena. I kept looking for >>>>>>>>>> a long time because I felt this was a very promising app. I hoped >>>>>>>>>> that I would be able to use this app to listen along side without >>>>>>>>>> disturbing sighted folks who were not watching the described version >>>>>>>>>> on the DVD. >>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From what I got from a post about this app through the Viphone >>>>>>>>>>> list, yes it does both. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the >>>>>>>>>>>> description of the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now >>>>>>>>>>>> confused. Does it do both subtitles and audio description? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for >>>>>>>>>>>>> reading subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to >>>>>>>>>>>>> me, but not descriptive audio. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica <jldai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is called movie reading >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iThingies which has the descriptive tracks for movies which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets triggered by the sound track to speak at the right points >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the film. I've looked on Applevis under audio description, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and also on Google but can't seem to find it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lisette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop 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