people only have what they deserve ... continue to support apple's irresponsibility that she pays you well ... like the mavericks update 10.9.3? apple gave you a handful of nothing wasn't accessibility? cheers.
As mulheres, durante séculos, serviram de espelho aos homens por possuírem o poder mágico e delicioso de reflectirem uma imagem do homem duas vezes maior que o natural. Virginia Woolf Mario Navarro mario....@gmail.com No dia 21/05/2014, às 18:17, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> escreveu: > Hi, > > I was just at an Apple Learning Tour event last week and let some of the > folks see the frustrations with accessibility in some of the apps including > iBooks. I agree that with Apple's push to have iBooks in the schools, they > need to continue working on these downfalls. I'm not making excuses, but, my > experience says that these things don't happen at the speed of light like we > would hope for. Accessibility improvements tend to just gradually happen > with no real advanced notice, which, of course, is Apple's way with most > things. We need to continue expressing the need to have these accessibility > issues addressed and also continue sharing workarounds as, sometimes, these > are the things that help people understand and improve on the accessibility > issues. > > Sorry, not much real help for you here. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On May 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Mary, >> >> First of all, the only useful selection in the radio group you mentioned is >> the list. Nothing else works well with vo. >> I'll go over some tricks I've found helpful in reading and navigating a >> book. First, I've found it helpful to turn off cursor tracking as the >> chapter navigation does not work for some reason win focus is in the HTML >> content. >> Next, you can route the mouse to the scroll area and press vo-f5. This will >> read the book content that is actually being displayed. Now you can move >> from chapter to chapter with command-shift-left or command-shift-right. >> When you do this, the displayed content you read with vo-f5 will change. >> You can move vo directly to the displayed content for reading by routing it >> to the mouse. You actually could not do this in the first release, but they >> did fix this. Also, you won't have large chunks of text that vo won't read >> at all. >> >> I agree with most of your comments about iBooks. I think it really could >> and should have been better. I believe that it is currently in the best >> state that it's been in however, and I am able to use it affectively in the >> way I described. I hope you find something I said useful keeping in mind >> that while the methods work for me presently, there are glitches as always. >> >> >> On May 21, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Having read on one of the lists I'm on, I think this one, but I might be >> wrong, that accessibility to iBooks was somewhat improved with the recent >> update, I have tried to get to grips with it, and have failed completely. >> When I first opened the program, it offered to import my several hundred >> books, and I said yes to that. I have reopened the program, and I have found >> a series of radio buttons that let me select among collections, all books >> and some other choices I don't recall. I picked collections, and I see a >> table that has my collection names in it. If I select one and quit >> interacting, I see absolutely no indication anywhere that I can actually >> access a list of books, much less open one. I've been through the menus with >> no help. I've been in preferences and found nothing useful. There are a few >> unlabeled buttons that somebody suggested were easy to label. I'd like to >> know how, since there are no hints associated with these. All in all, I find >> this application to be totally frustrating and a really bad example of what >> I thought was Apple's commitment to accessibility. Especially since they >> want iBooks in schools, you'd think they'd have made this totally VO >> accessible. >> >> So, for those of you who find this application efficiently usable, please >> tell me what I'm missing. Thanks. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> Barry Hadder >> bhad...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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