Oh right, low verbosity. I said high for some reason. Yes, in 10.9.2 you would hit a very annoying delay if you used app-specific activities. I haven't tested that in this release, but in the beta, the delay was still present. All I can say is: keep emailing accessibil...@apple.com and reporting to www.apple.com/feedback. I know most of us already do that, but it is worth repeating, I think. On May 16, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> Hi John. I see Alex has already answered on the collapsed disclosure triangle > annoyance. You can get around it by setting verbosity to low, but then you > miss badge information, and if you use an activity to narrow low verbosity to > Mail, those of us who don't use Alex run into the delay bug where switching > apps out of an app affected by an activity takes an extremely long time. > I use VO-J with conversations enabled in the modern view because pressing > Return to open the message is far too verbose for my tastes. You have to sit > through too much verbiage before the body of the message. VO-J is faster. > Trouble is, since Mavericks, sometimes the first press of VO-J yields > results, other times you have to press it three times because the first press > does nothing. > None of these issues existed in ML. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 16/05/2014, at 11:18 am, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jonathan, >> Out of curiosity, what is happening with the disclosure triangles or VO-j >> commands. I don't think I'm experiencing this, but I am using the standard >> view with conversation threading enabled. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain >> Lion >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >> On May 15, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >> >>> None of the accessibility annoyances in Mail are fixed as far as I can >>> tell. The collapsed disclosure triangle bug still exists and so does the >>> unreliable VO-J. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> On 16/05/2014, at 5:19 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> 10.9.3 just dropped. No word on accessibility improvements, but it does >>>> restore locally syncing Calendars and Contacts without needing iCloud. Now >>>> that the beta is over, I can tell you all that, during my testing, every >>>> bug you asked me to look at remained not fixed, and I did report each one. >>>> Perhaps they are fixed in the final version, which I do not yet have, >>>> though, so don't lose hope just yet. As usual with minor updates, there >>>> are no big changes or new features in VoiceOver. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
