Hi there 
This is why I put this list on the Cloud. That way, whatever I take off the 
iPhone comes off my computer. It was the easiest way for me to handle things. 
Before I did that, I was taking everything off twice, and it was driving me 
crazy. 
Regards, 
Gigi 

On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:51 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not if you’re using a POP account.  I don’t believe that there is facility 
> within the settings of the Mail client on the iPhone to pull the messages 
> down from the server in the same manner that the Mail clients can on a 
> Desktop or Laptop computer.  On your Mac, you can tell Mail to either leave 
> them on the Server for a specific period of time or bring them down right 
> away.  This sort of behaviour is why I prefer the iMap protocol.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:08 PM, arthur gindin <ryoanji....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> gmail has a "trash."  Mozilla (?Mail) has a trash.  "local folders has a 
>> trash.  Mac has a trash.
>> 
>> ag
>> 
>> On 4/29/14, 6:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> The thing I don't like is this.  when you have already checked your mail 
>>> with your Mac, the messages remain on the server apparently for at least a 
>>> week afterward even when you have set the account on your iPhone to delete 
>>> message when they are removed from your in box.  I should think, unless I 
>>> am wrong, that trashing all messages and then deleting them from the trash 
>>> should be enough.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Chris Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This can't be done you have to select and delete messages one by one. A 
>>>> workaround sort of is to turn on organize by thread in Settings > Mail 
>>>> Contacts and Calendar.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards Chris
>>>> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
>>>> 
>>>> On 29/04/2014 22:39, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>>>>> hello all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am trying to delete  old mail  from my  gmail account  using my braille 
>>>>> pen 12.  how do I perform a select all  in order  to delete my old 
>>>>> messages from my gmail account?.
>>>>> thank you! so much for your help in this matter.
>>>>> sincerely, chenele.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2014, at 5:25 pm, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   Today's topic summary
>>>>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication. [1 
>>>>>> Update]
>>>>>> A scanner for finereader pro on the mac. [1 Update]
>>>>>> Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop. [4 
>>>>>> Updates]
>>>>>> Where to purchase Amadeous Pro [1 Update]
>>>>>> Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks [5 Updates]
>>>>>> printer sharing [1 Update]
>>>>>> Roboform for Mac [1 Update]
>>>>>> Terminal: is it safe to use? [2 Updates]
>>>>>> Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks [1 Update]
>>>>>>  A question about finereader pro and sending text to an aplication.
>>>>>> Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> Apr 29 11:22PM +0200
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I really love working with the finereader pro for mac. There is one 
>>>>>> thing that annoys me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been using the windows version of finereader for many years, a 
>>>>>> function that I really like is the send to function, but this function 
>>>>>> is not included in the mac version. I wonder if you could make a script 
>>>>>> that will send the document to e.g. textedit but without having to 
>>>>>> export and save. If anyone knows something I would be glad to know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  A scanner for finereader pro on the mac.
>>>>>> Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> Apr 29 11:17PM +0200
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Terje.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I bought the canon canoscan 9000f. This is really a scanner that works. 
>>>>>> I have never got a scanner to work as fast as this one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for your suggestion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Having the Driver connected to the Airport Base, on the Desktop.
>>>>>> Gabriele Battaglia <iz4...@libero.it> Apr 29 09:58PM +0200
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>> Is it possible to have these items on my desktop, as they were connected 
>>>>>> directly to the iMac, instead being on the Airport Estreme?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Gabriel.
>>>>>> —
>>>>>> Namasté!
>>>>>> Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> Apr 29 03:09PM -0500
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
>>>>>> misunderstand your question?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabriele Battaglia <gabriele.battag...@gmail.com> Apr 29 10:25PM +0200
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you talking about your hard drive? Maybe external or did I 
>>>>>>> misunderstand your question?
>>>>>> Hi Jim.
>>>>>> If configured so, you may have all the external driver eventually 
>>>>>> connected to Mavericks, on the desktop, as you usually have just the 
>>>>>> main one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s happens when drivers are connected via some port, like USB, or 
>>>>>> when they are available in the same Local network.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately this seem not to be true for those drivers who are link 
>>>>>> via the Airport Extreme.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabriel
>>>>>> —
>>>>>> Namasté!
>>>>>> Inviato dal mio iMac27. (Gmail)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> Apr 29 03:11PM -0600
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the Finder Preferences (cmd-comma while in the Finder), you can check 
>>>>>> the box to have Connected Servers show on your Desktop. When this item 
>>>>>> is checked, there will be an icon representing the network drive 
>>>>>> displayed on your Desktop just like when you have a drive connected 
>>>>>> directly via USB, Firewire or Thunderbolt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Where to purchase Amadeous Pro
>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> Apr 30 08:47AM +1200
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi max, yes, the version from his website is less crippled in a few 
>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>> I purchased via the App Store when I first got a Mac, and ran into a 
>>>>>> couple of issues with more complex functions. The developer converted my 
>>>>>> purchase so it would run with the version on his site. To be compliant 
>>>>>> with the App Store's guidelines, an app has to conform to Apple's strict 
>>>>>> sandbox rules. His version does not.
>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>>>>> Mosen Consulting
>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>>>>> http://Mosen.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Sluggish behavior After Updating to Mavericks
>>>>>> Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Apr 29 02:56PM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know this has been discussed before. If there is an archive I can't 
>>>>>> find it.
>>>>>> I have a Macbook with 4 gig memory and I hpdated it to Mavericks last 
>>>>>> night. Things are very sluggish and busy. They are slow to respond and 
>>>>>> mail seems the worst. I thought 4 gig could run Mavericks on a Macbook. 
>>>>>> Is this wrong? Are there things I can do to get it to run better?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> Apr 29 03:01PM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you running all the latest updates? I found that 10.9.2 fixed those 
>>>>>> problems for me. Also, Mail may take a while to sync everything and 
>>>>>> settle down, so if it is the primary source of the trouble, see if it 
>>>>>> doesn't fix itself in a couple days. To test this, quit Mail entirely 
>>>>>> and go about your normal usage, then open Mail again and see if anything 
>>>>>> changes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>> Alex Hall
>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Apr 29 02:20PM -0500
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition, did you run repair disk and restart your machine? I'd 
>>>>>> suppose that, if indeed you downloaded and installed Mavricks just last 
>>>>>> night, Odd's are you are running the latest version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>> blind built-in!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Apr 29 03:25PM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a Macbook that they do not make anymore. It's about three to 
>>>>>> four years old. Is there a reason to think I should go back to Mountain 
>>>>>> Lion and if so, how do I do that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kristeen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Apr 29 03:29PM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think Mavericks rebuilds a number of indexes such as spotlights which
>>>>>> can take a while. Like Alex said, all that should settle down after 'a
>>>>>> while'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/29/14, 3:01 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ż\_(?)_/Ż
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  printer sharing
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> Apr 29 12:24PM -0600
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve got a number of these System Pref errors while using the Printer 
>>>>>> pane of System Prefs with VO. From what I recall, this is an issue 
>>>>>> between VO and System Prefs, not anything you’re doing wrong. Sometimes 
>>>>>> you can work around these things by turning off VO prior to doing some 
>>>>>> activities within the System Prefs and clicking your mouse or trackpad 
>>>>>> the sighted user way. If you have access to sighted assistance, you may 
>>>>>> wish to have them help with this task for now. I imagine it will be 
>>>>>> fixed soon as it was never an issue in the past but somehow cropped up 
>>>>>> in Mavericks, maybe even late in Mountain Lion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry, not much real help here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Roboform for Mac
>>>>>> Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> Apr 29 09:07AM -0700
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone using Roboform? Is it compatible with Coiceover? Its
>>>>>> installed, activated and the toolbar is enabled but the toolbar buttons
>>>>>> are dimmed. If I go to the applications folder and open it, I get a
>>>>>> welcome screen that has two choices I need to choose. But there are no
>>>>>> buttons, nothing happens. If I bring up the RB menu, some items like
>>>>>> prefs are also dimmed. I am in contact with RB tech support but they are
>>>>>> not seeming to know what they are doing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>>>>> A lot of people are afraid of heights. Not me, I'm afraid of widths.
>>>>>> --Steven Wright
>>>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>>>>>> E-mail-
>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Terminal: is it safe to use?
>>>>>> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Apr 29 11:35AM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you're not on Mavericks, this prefs pane supposedly works:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/StartupSound/index.en.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Likewise folks said Psst works as well:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16780/psst
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Others like to use Start Ninja to turn off the chime:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.allvu.com/index.php/products/startninja.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/29/14, 10:53 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jessica <jldai...@gmail.com> Apr 29 11:38AM -0400
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am on Mavericks. It is not a huge feel. I just like to know an easy 
>>>>>> way to do it if necessary that will not damage the system & work with 
>>>>>> voiceover.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Mailbox Sort Order in Mavericks
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> Apr 29 09:29AM -0600
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One more option that’s a little more invasive but should do the trick.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Quit Mail.
>>>>>> 2. Go into ~/Library/Mail/v2/Your_Mail_Account
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Normally, you would go to the Finder then press cmd-shift-h then open 
>>>>>> the Library file if it is visible. If your ~/Library folder is hidden, 
>>>>>> then, when in the Finder, press VO-m to go up to the menubar, over to 
>>>>>> the Go menu and, using VO-down, navigate to the Library item then press 
>>>>>> return. You’ll now be in this usually hidden folder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Open the Mail folder.
>>>>>> 4. Open the v2 folder.
>>>>>> 5. Locate the Mailbox folder that has the incorrectly sorted folders.
>>>>>> 6. Press cmd-c to Copy it.
>>>>>> 7. Go into the Terminal app.
>>>>>> 8. Enter the following commands (exclude the dollar sign)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $cd pathname - where the pathname is entered by pressing cmd-v. That is, 
>>>>>> you’re pasting the path you copied in #6. Press return.
>>>>>> $mv .mboxCache.plist .mboxCache.plist.bak - Note that there are spaces 
>>>>>> between items, a “dot” before the filenames, and that the first “c” of 
>>>>>> “Cache” is in caps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What you’re doing here is renaming the first filename to the second 
>>>>>> filename. Because this file has the “dot” in front of the filename, it 
>>>>>> is normally an invisible file and should remain this way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 9. Quit Terminal app.
>>>>>> 10. Open Mail and it should rebuild the .mboxCache.plist file for you 
>>>>>> and consequently fix the problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You’ll need to do this for each Mail account that has this issue. Note 
>>>>>> the word “should”. This is my favourite word in computer-land as it 
>>>>>> covers my behind in case things don’t work as I planned.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later…
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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