Not true. You cand certainly assign commands on displays that don't have a braille keyboard. Although, as read only displays have fewer keys, the number of commands you can assign is somewhat limited.
Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-04-27, at 9:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: > Hi again > You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on > your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on > your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read > braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your display is > supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make > it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you > will need to use your computer keyboard to do everything like putting things > in and use your Braille display toread braille on your programs such as text > edit. In fact, text edit is the first program that I would recommend you > start with to practice with your braille display. You may need to press > command shift w in text edit so that when you get to the bottom of the first > page your text will start on the next page. > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to >> navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility > braille then i >> have to assign some commands? >>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi there >>> Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not >>> mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus >>> 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 >>> blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about >>> voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its >>> manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported >>> Braille displays. So, you might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver >>> in Apple's website and see if it's on the list. You first look under the >>> manufacturer, and then it has the displays under that manufacturer that are >>> supported. >>> >>> In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not >>> exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell >>> you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under >>> Windows. Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported >>> braille displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't >>> listed there. I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed >>> there, some of which I never heard of before. >>> >>> Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get >>> braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on >>> the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those >>> displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think >>> you would see braille on your display if you are able to get braille on it >>> without going through more complicated connections. I hope what I just said >>> makes sense. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual >>>> for my display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use >>>> it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use >>>> this display braille for all screen reader except for voice over, >>>>> Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth >>>>> <gigifi...@me.com> ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>> Hi there >>>>> I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays >>>>> have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. >>>>> Does your Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I >>>>> meant by input keys. If your Braille display will let you type input >>>>> Braille, then you can use some commands that are listed in the VoiceOver >>>>> manual. Also, do you have the manual for your braille display? If you do, >>>>> a lot of them have listed commands for using them with screen readers. >>>>> Mine has a section for iOS devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and >>>>> Windows commands. >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my >>>>>> display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual >>>>>> there's no instruction how to use it on voice over >>>>>>> Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth >>>>>>> <gigifi...@me.com> ha scritto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>> Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press >>>>>>> the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be >>>>>>> able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some >>>>>>> Braille commands that apply to Braille displays in particular, no >>>>>>> matter which one they are. There are some that are unique to a >>>>>>> particular display, like mine has some special keys that do different >>>>>>> things. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open >>>>>>>> it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using my >>>>>>>> display braille? this is my first display braille, the name was touch >>>>>>>> me 5 by nippon telesoft >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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